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Reply #1 of 3 posted 29 AUG by Patricia Routley
Reference? Website? Anything? Climber? Mini? No prickles? black? Brown? Brindle? or pink?
Reply #2 of 3 posted 30 AUG by Margaret Furness
Photos would be nice to see.
Reply #3 of 3 posted today by Gary Wootton
Richard Walsh has contacted me and said that you were having problems trying to contact me, I will give you another means of contact, but it is for you only and not for publication.

Reply #4 of 3 posted today by Andrew from Dolton
Gary, were you aware that you have posted your email address in a public place where everyone can see?
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Initial post today by Andrew from Dolton
I grow several old garden roses that have varying degrees of remontancy. 'Rosa de Resht' blooms sporadically throughout the summer after the first main flush but unless the weather is very dry (which is rare in my location), it will quickly be infested with blackspot. 'Duchess of Portland' usually makes some effort to reflower but it is one of the worst culprits for blackspot with leaves not having any green areas remaining by mid-summer. This year after a hot dry June and July never even attempted any new growth or flowers when finally in August we had some rain. 'Quatre Saisons Blanc Mousseux' is quite healthy but the "autumn" flowering in August is rather brief and sparse. 'Stanwell Perpetual' is healthy and reflowers well although after July it never has more than two or three flowers out right through to October and never really makes much of a display despite the individual blooms and buds being very beautiful. 'Agnes' tries to have a second flush but usually quite late and the weather in September is starting to become to cold and wet for the blooms to open properly with many just remaining as buds. This year it bloomed well again in August but this was exceptional. But for health and quantity of flower this rose 'Jacques Cartier' or 'Marchesa Boccella' or whatever it's called far out does the rest. I cut half a dozen blooms for a friend yesterday and it has hardly dented the display. In my climate with cool damp summers it grows about 1.2M and is as good as any modern rose. Its growth is very like a hybrid-perpetual.
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Initial post today by CybeRose
Canadian Rose Annual pp. 35-36 (1965)

In 1955 Mr. Blakeney acquired 'Karl Herbst' and was much impressed with its plant and foliage characteristics. Its parentage, 'Independence' x 'Peace' seemed to him to be a promising combination and he decided on 'Karl Herbst' as one parent and gave a lot of thought to choosing a pollen parent. He wanted vigour, disease resistance and glossy leaves. 'Peace' has all these qualities, but is one of the parents of 'Karl Herbst'. Most roses, when closely inbred, give less vigour in their progeny, but 'Peace' being a very vigorous rose, he reasoned that a slight loss of vigour should not be a serious handicap and so he crossed 'Karl Herbst' with 'Peace' in 1957. The seedling that is now 'Miss Canada' came from this cross and germinated February 10th, 1958. Its first blooms passed unrecorded because, in all probability, it did not show much promise.
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Initial post yesterday by JasonSims1984
This is a great rose. It is nice and bushy, and I just like it so much more than a lot of modern grafted roses. Mind you, a hardy, own root hybrid tea is a very special thing. Only a few perform well for me, and interestingly enough, Blue Girl and Blue Moon do very well, as do several Hybrid Perpetual and Moss roses and other OGRs. Purple is my favorite color and coincidentally purple roses grow well for me. My aesthetic is very species oriented, and once again, species grow well for me. So it may be a chicken or the egg situation. Maybe they do well for me because I like them a lot so I take better care of them, or maybe they are better growers for me so I have adopted a soft spot for them. Both sides of that equation are probably true.

I'm hoping to get a cross of moschata x rugosa this year to send to someone, and to keep for myself. Probably the closest thing to that in existence is the gootendorst roses. It would be nice to get a direct species cross to capitalize on fragrance, hardiness, remontancy, and disease resistance. I can see a lot of potential there.

I would love to recreate the damask as rugosa x moschata x fedtschenkoana. It would normally have gallica instead of rugosa, but gallica is a once bloomer. With rugosa in the cross, all parents would be rebloomers and that would mean a nice steady reblooming fragrant damask type rose with improved cold tolerance. A lot of people would say I'm basically wasting my time making such primitive crosses, but a nice perfected species cross with a clean bloodline free of disease sources would be a good starting point to base a hybridizing program. Some of the nicest roses are very simple.
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