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'Young Lycidas' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 146-192
most recent 22 SEP SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 21 JUN by Domenico 67
Bought one plant of Young Lycidas on own roots, a smallish one year old cutting, at Italian nursery Nino Sanremo, which grows own roots roses with a rather vast catalogue.
It's small, and still has thin branches and small foliage, but it's quite thickly ramified. The foliage looked different from pictures here, and I was wondering if it was mislabeled.
It didn't give any flower at the time of the first bloom, because of those thin branches, but now it's getting stronger and putting out some larger foliage, more true to the photos I see here... and finally some flower buds too, which grow very quickly, but slow down a lot when the colour starts showing. The first one is about to open just now, it's making me wait, I thought it was already opening two days ago ahahah. So curious to see it (hoping it's not mislabeled! the colour of the bud looks right), and to smell that fragrance too.

Update: The label was right, my plant is actually Young Lycidas. Now it's definitely getting stronger, sprouting basal growth even if still not very thick... and I've not even given it a larger container yet (I'm about to do it), I just fed itn generously and helped with mycorrhizal supplement.
I like its flowers a lot, their color reminding me some sort of half-way between an ancient Gallica and Mme Isaac Pereire. Beautiful, and strongly fragrant as well. The smell is really delicious, even if another Austin I purchased, Gabriel Oak, is even better to my nose. Y.L. has some slightly bitter tea undertones that I don't find particularly appealing (they tend to emerge in the evening, when scent fades away a little bit), but in the end the mix is still really good.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 22 SEP by DLEverette_NC_Zone7b
Thanks for your description. I grew one years ago and it didn't do much for me and I got rid of it because it was lanky and didn't have much fragrance at all. I kind of regret that decision, given what I've since learned about deadheading roses in warmer areas like my zone 7b. I have one coming back again next season. I'm hoping to experience the fragrance and am excited to see how I can shape it as a bush.

But Gabriel Oak....I love everything about this rose, except it's fragrance. It's very strong, and reminds me of hyacinth. It smells great from a distance, but up close, it's not appealing to me. I only experience this in the morning and on cooler days. During the day, it tends to lose that strong hit of hyacinth and has more of a sweet smell that I like. I'm removing it from it's prime spot and keeping it somewhere else, to see what it does when it matures a bit.
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Discussion id : 61-875
most recent 24 SEP 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 9 FEB 12 by Jerome Molokie
Having grown this rose for only 11 months now, I am very pleased with it. It has beautiful growth habit, lots of foliage (the description says "medium green" but to my eye it's darker, with bronze new growth and stems that stay a mahogany color - most attractive) and bushy habit. It does send out some longer shoots, but where I have it planted it is not an "octopus". Its flowers are very fragrant and produced with regularity. After the experience of these past 11 months - I liked Young Lycidas so much that I ordered more bare root plants to put in this season as well. A very nice rose.
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 17 AUG 17 by mamabotanica
Still doing well? I bought a Barbara Streisand own root hybrid tea for the lovely purple color and fragrance but in the photos on here some look more silvery than I like. Wondering if I should gift it to someone and plant Young Lycidas in that spot (Bright morning and afternoon sun but full shade from about 2 pm onward in my warm zone 10 Pasadena garden.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 17 AUG 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Barbra Streisand as own-root gives me a hard-time in hot & dry weather. The color is dull-gray-purple. Leaves fried in full-sun at mid 80 F. So I moved Barbra to 4 hours of morning sun .. bloomed well with tons of acidic rain & flash flood. Then we got into hot & dry and I watered with my alkaline-tap water for only 4 days, and Barbra immediately broke out in blackspot (so wimpy as own-root). In contrast, folks report about Young Lycidas: 1) good for the vase 2) can take full-sun 3) leaves are similar to Sharifa Asma, and Sharifa Asma behaves well in hot & dry as own-root for me.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 23 AUG 17 by Jerome Molokie
Yes...it's still plugging along. Great rose
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 17 FEB 18 by mamabotanica
How big is it in your garden? I have a small spot that I could fit a smallish rose in (3x3 ideally but 4x4 could work) and I know that Austins are notorious for growing to gargantuan proportions in Southern California. Does she stay petite or perhaps pruning to keep her under control?
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 20 FEB 18 by Jerome Molokie
I'd say it would be easily maintainable at 4 x 4 or even smaller. At least that's been the experience here at the abbey.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 24 SEP 22 by Anita silicon valley
In Zone 10 in Santa Clara Valley my Young Lycidas is 4 feet high and 5 feet wide with water restrictions.
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Discussion id : 125-328
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Discussion id : 87-340
most recent 7 FEB 20 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 15 AUG 15 by johnm99
I planted about 40 Austin and 50 Kordes roses this years in a fairly small space - only received some of these in Mid May (those ordered from Austin's in Texas - they only ship once a year to Canada - normally I would plant in Nov-Jan here on the west coast) so May was very late. So, the plants are quite small still, but I have chosen most of my roses for fragrance, and these come out at the top. The colour is one of my favourites, the blooms are a good size although not huge, very attractive, and the fragrance is really strong. A lot of roses have a fragrance that people say "oh, nice" - but this one is in another category where most people say "oh, wow!". That is what I am looking for. Too early to judge bush size, but they were very attractive bushes when I saw them last summer at Austin's in England. A keeper!
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 7 FEB 20 by Emily White
This was very helpful, thank you! How are Young Lycidas doing for you now?
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