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'Charles de Gaulle ®' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 64-213
most recent 11 NOV 19 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 10 MAY 12 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
I asked Kim Rupert, a breeder, about Charles de Gaulle. He informed me that it did very well in California, zone 9 and 10 - "very healthy, a heavy bloomer and very fragrant." SteveinAustralia informed that Charles de Gaulle is low-thorn.
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 21 MAY 17 by Lavenderlace
Straw, he doesn't like my sandy soil at all so might be perfect for your clay! Though I think that he would require a pot in your colder zone though?
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 22 MAY 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you for the info. Meilland French roses need to be winterized inside a garage my zone 5a. I went to Chicago Botanical Garden today, 5/21/17, so many buds on their roses, but none of them bloom yet. My Mary Magdalene (Austin own-root) bloomed since last week !! The shortest rose at the park is a Meilland: The McCartney rose, and they planted it next to a warm brick building (zone 5b), that rose is only 6 inch. tall, zero buds. Heritage next to it is 2 feet tall with buds, and Louis Odier (a Bourbon) is just as tall.

It happens every spring, my own-root Austin roses bloom 2 weeks ahead of the rose park, since theirs are grafted on Dr.Huey.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 22 MAY 17 by Lavenderlace
My CdG bloomed in February, one of the first, but of course he has been coddled in the pot and not exposed to severe weather. I think it's because they hate my soil, but they are the smallest plants that I have and not vigorous for me at all. I bought them because I wanted short though but Straw, don't you want the opposite?
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 22 MAY 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
It could be the pot and fast leaching of nutrients such as calcium & nitrogen .. both are essential for growth. Also the type of potting soil matter. When I grew roses in MiracleGro Moisture Control potting soil .. roses grew fast & tall due to plenty of fertilizer already there, but I switched to cheap Schultz potting soil and their growth got stunt. MG-moisture control retains water & nutrients well. Meillands like Charles d. Gaulle are bigger waterhogs than Austin roses so a potting soil high in peatmoss helps.

Last year using alfalfa pellets plus ORGANIC soluble at NPK 4-3-2 WAS NOT ENOUGH. A dozen roses were wimpy & stingy in pots. But previous years using chemical Soluble for roses NPK 19-18-20 they grew twice bigger & more blooms. Pots need higher NPK, more frequent soluble fertilizer since nutrients leach out fast. Pots don't have enough soil bacteria to fix nitrogen, so chemical fertilizer or SOLUBLE fish emulsion is best.

Years ago when I first grew Austin roses, I made the mistake of giving them high nitrogen NPK 10-5-4, and they got too tall, little blooms. Now I give all my roses low-nitrogen & high potassium, and they are shorter with more blooms. But I still want the tallest-possible roses since the rabbits chew on the short ones in the spring. Question for everyone: What are your most vigorous and tallest roses in spring? Thank you.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 22 MAY 17 by Lavenderlace
Straw, the ones that are the best for me won't work for your zone, except for maybe Heritage and Jude. Will Singin' the Blues handle your cold? Have you ever grown Grande Dame or Amazing Grace? Think that they can handle your winters!
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 22 MAY 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you, will look them up.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 11 NOV 19 by bumblekim
Did yours end up surviving? The Palatine website says hardy to zone FIVE!! OOF So I ordered one, they come on Multiflora RS. I am going to plant in a sheltered corner I reserve for the tender roses, very close to my house.
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Discussion id : 96-648
most recent 31 DEC 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 31 DEC 16 by JasonSims1984
Has anyone attempted this rose in zone 6? I'm about zone 6b.
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Discussion id : 82-214
most recent 27 DEC 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 27 DEC 14 by Cà Berta
In 1974 it was presented to the International Trials of Rome and Monza with the code L. Mei 726 (see references).It would be useful to have this code listed among the other synonyms.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 27 DEC 14 by Patricia Routley
Added.
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Discussion id : 75-121
most recent 15 NOV 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 15 NOV 13 by Renato Emma
Syn.'Meilanein', 'Katherine Mansfield'
Rosa a cespuglio Ibrido di Tea, a portamento vigoroso/eretto, ben ramificato, senza spine o quasi. Fogliame lucido, cuoioso, verde scuro, bronzeo da giovane. Fiori a gambo lungo, grandi, rosa-lilla. Fragranza intensa e penetrante, di Rosa Tea. Resistente a freddo e malattie. Rifiorente. Adatta x fiori da esposizione e taglio. H.90cm L.65cm.
(ROSACEAE) (Marie-Louise Meilland, Meilland Intern., Francia, 1974)
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