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'Amadis' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 128-327
most recent 2 JUL HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 30 JUN by scvirginia
I thinkt Buist was wrong to equate 'Amadis' and 'Elegans'. He may have received duplicate roses under different names, but Rivers and Paul describe these as distinct roses. 'Elegans' was said to have the longest flowering time of all the Boursaults of that time (early to mid-19th Century).

If there are no objections, I will separate these two varieties.

Edited to Add: Prince says 'Elegans' is also 'Purple Boursault' AKA 'Maheca', and the descriptions do match, including the frequent streak of white in the flower described. This might explain why 'Maheca' still seems to be around despite not being listed in catalogs for a long time.
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 30 JUN by jedmar
I think you are right. There are too many references listing both separately.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 30 JUN by scvirginia
Do you agree that 'Elegans' is probably 'Maheca'? The descriptions match up, but I think only Prince equates them...?
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 1 JUL by jedmar
'Maheca' is described as purple or purple-crimson while 'Elegans' is just crimson. I would keep 'Elegans' separate until further information pops up.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 1 JUL by scvirginia
Will do.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 2 JUL by scvirginia
Actually, both are described as purplish crimson.

I just looked over the 'Amadis' photos, and nearly all flowers show the white streak that is supposed to belong to 'Elegans' or 'Maheca.

There's no mention of white streaking in early 'Amadis' references, but who knows what rose that really is still in commerce?
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 2 JUL by jedmar
Who knows? The white streaking which we find also in other roses, is usually evidence of China ancestry
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Discussion id : 122-308
most recent 26 JUN 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 26 JUN 20 by Margaret Furness
A fair crop of red hips this winter, but I cut open 10 without finding a convincing seed. I note that there are no offspring recorded from it as seed parent.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 26 JUN 20 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Few roses are totally infertile. You might try it for pollen if you choose to pursue it.

These projects take years, as you know.
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