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'Duchesse De Montebello' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 113-401
most recent 6 OCT 18 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 5 OCT 18 by bumblekim
Why is it a Hybrid China? Wouldn't that mean it would repeat-flower? Also wouldn't that mean it was not hardy above z6 or 7?
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 5 OCT 18 by Patricia Routley
Reading the references may help answer your question. Start from the bottom and read up. This will give you a chronological overview.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 5 OCT 18 by Margaret Furness
Hybrid China tends to be a ragbag term, used by some (and disapproved by others) for roses probably bred in the 19th century, which clearly aren't pure "Old European", and usually not repeat-flowering (presumably first-generation crosses with repeat-flowerers). Some unidentified survivor roses here (zone 9b) get thrown into that category.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 6 OCT 18 by jedmar
The first generation of crosses of Chinas with Gallicas/Damasks etc in the 19th century inherited the once-flowefing characteristics of the European Roses. These were named Hybrid Chinas. Only subsequent crosses with repeat-flowering resulted in occasional or regular repeat. These later crosses were called Hybrid Perpetuals.
Discussion id : 75-135
most recent 16 NOV 13 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 16 NOV 13 by Jukka K
Lax growth, almost thornless. Tolerates shade.
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