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"Rosa moschata Graham Thomas's Musk" rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 153-654
most recent 24 OCT HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 OCT by Orianne Courmes
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Discussion id : 117-382
most recent 15 JUL SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 1 JUL 19 by CybeRose
This note may explain why the Musk roses were said to be strictly late bloomers (August, September). Being cut back nearly to the ground seems to be a good way to delay the flowering, and possibly to increase the display.

The Compleat Florist (2nd ed. 1706)
Louis Liger d'Auxerre

Of the Rosa Moschata, alias Damask-Roses.
Your Damask Rose-Tree, requires a good Kitchin-Garden-Ground, a hot Sun, and frequent watering. One Advantage it has, that 'tis not afraid of Cold, and yields Flowers several Months in the Year.

The Rules of Gardening injoin us in every Autumn and Spring, to cut the old Branches of the Damask-Rose Tree to within Half a Foot of the Ground, that the Eyes which there remain may give Rise to many new Branches, which being unexhausted, will produce Roses in very great abundance.

We propagate this Species by the Sucker, which sprout from it, and which being planted in a fresh Place, readily take Root, and in a little time become pretty Shrubs.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 15 JUL by MelissaPej
I don't know whether someone else has already commented on this elsewhere. I have a mature R. moschata, planted around 2010 and left to grow. Once it got going, which took a few years, it went up and up, getting support as it got larger as its growth is lax, and has now reached the dimensions of a moderate climber. It has never gotten much pruning, just occasional light removal of aged growth, and has never been cut back hard in its life, but it blooms the latest of all my roses. This year it came into flower this month, July, and I think that's usual. (In comparison, this year the Teas began flowering in April, and the once-blooming roses, Gallicas and Co., in May.) It does well in our climate in the Italian hills, with mild temperatures, summer heat and drought, good annual water, historically around one meter annually, though recent years may be drier. It gets no supplementary water and blooms well nonetheless.
A couple of comments about the observations in 'The Compleat Florist': hard pruning at the right time of year likely would keep the plant shrubby, and also likely cause the plant to require more water for regrowth. My unpruned plant blooms tolerably well, but I'm not fussy about these things. Also, my plant, own root, has not so far suckered out.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 15 JUL by jedmar
It seems to me that in 1706 they sometimes called our R. damascena as R. moschata.
We do not prune our R. moschata either. It grows high into an apple tree. Flowering season in Switzerland is August-September
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Discussion id : 131-899
most recent 3 MAR 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 3 MAR 22 by CybeRose
Sprenger (1923)
The Korfuana variety is thorny. The flowers are milky white, I didn't see the reddish color of the typical species on the outside. They smell particularly fine in the late evening, at night and in the fresh morning. During the day their volatile oil seems to evaporate so rapidly that little or nothing remains perceptible to the human sense of smell. It is a mild, pleasant musky scent. One collects the rosettes for its sake, to put them between the laundry and clothes, but also in winter to stretch the tea with them, which then regulates the digestion better.

Has anyone sniffed R. Moschata in the late evening or early morning?
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 3 MAR 22 by jedmar
Smells like cloves for my nose
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 3 MAR 22 by CybeRose
That's what I smell, too, but I haven't had a sniff in evening or early morning. Also, I have not smelled real musk for a reference. I'd think someone in the past centuries would have compared the scent to Clove Pinks, or other Pinks.
Karl
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Discussion id : 122-514
most recent 8 JUL 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 8 JUL 20 by Andrew from Dolton
Is this rose a China hybrid?
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