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'Lord Bacon' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 116-276
most recent 21 APR 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 20 APR 19 by odinthor
The Dr. "Queunell" would actually be Dr. John C. Quennell, longtime resident of Brentwood, Essex, quondam Army surgeon, and a Freemason.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 20 APR 19 by Patricia Routley
And Mr. Postans? See 1910-46 reference.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 20 APR 19 by odinthor
One of Postans' varieties--indeed, his first, it seems--is . . . 'May Quennell'. Perhaps there are two wheels spinning here, a romantic link between Postans and the Quennell family, and rose breeding amateur Dr. Quennell funneling his seedling through the more-established Postans to William Paul.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 21 APR 19 by Patricia Routley
I am sure you are correct about the romantic connection. The question is, who bred ‘Lord Bacon’, Postans or Quennell?
Easlea said in 1910 it was Postans. In 1943 he said it was Quennell.
We have Postans’ varieties:
1878 May Quennell
1879 Countess of Rosebery
1879 Duchess of Bedford
1881 Lady Sheffield
1881 Red Gauntlet, and then there is
1883 Lord Bacon.

What about if I change the breeder from Paul to Postans temporarily until further information comes to light?
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 21 APR 19 by odinthor
Yes, I think Postans is at least closer to being the breeder than is W. Paul. Postans is Richard Broadhurst Postans, also of Brentwood (I keep slipping and saying "Brentford"); I see he was quite a naturalist. He also bred Zonal Geraniums. Quennell meantime was an ardent rose exhibitor, as one finds examining the horticultural press of the time.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 21 APR 19 by jedmar
Here you can find both Richard B. Postans and John Cooper Quennell (d. February 28, 1909), as well as a Rev. William Quennell:

http://www.historyhouse.co.uk/placeB/essexb33d.html

They were both members of the Royal Horticultural Society and on the Floral Committee in 1877.
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Discussion id : 30-117
most recent 1 SEP 08 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 1 SEP 08 by CybeRose
According to Walter Easlea - Two Rose Centuries Meet (American Rose Annual, 1943) - commenting on the rose, 'Hugh Dickson':

"One of the parents of this rose was Lord Bacon, raised by an amateur, Dr. Queunell, living in Essex."
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