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'Friedrich Harms' rose Reviews & Comments
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The 1902 reference from 'The Florists' Exchange' gives the parentage as "Kaiserin Augusta Victoria X Sunset X Comtesse de Frigneuse". I gather this means that the pollen parent was a seedling (Sunset X Comtesse de Frigneuse), making 'Franz Deegen' an HT with substantial Tea Rose in it.
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25 NOV 22 by
 jedmar
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Thank you, pollen parent added
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25 NOV 22 by
HubertG
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It could explain, if 'Franz Deegen' is triploid, why 'Gruss an Aachen' is triploid.
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American Gardening, 20(774): 201-202 (March 28, 1903)
New Roses
Prepared by E. G. Hill for the Annual Meeting of the American Rose Society. Philadelphia, Pa.. March 84, 1903
Franz Deegen.—My prediction is that this variety will grow in favor as its winter forcing qualities become better and more generally known. It is a good vigorous grower, producing long canes not unlike those produced by Kaiserin Augusta Victoria, and is remarkably free in producing its buds during the winter months. It likes good culture and thrives with good feed and plenty of it. The color is a charming tint of yellow, which has a depth seen in but few Roses. Would certainly advise a trial of this Rose on at least a limited scale, so that it may have a universal test over the country. This variety has grown in our estimation as we have noted its behavior the past few months.
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Is this rose extinct? The only garden listed here as having it is Sangerhausen. However, it's not in the Verzeichnis, and I did not find it in Sangerhausen.
It would be such a shame, this rose being the parent of Gruss an Aachen.
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The 1994 reference casts some doubt on the parentage of 'Gruss an Aachen'.
But if 'Franz Deegen' did survive (it was said to have weak growth in America- 1918 ref); and (vigorous in UK - 1934 ref.), it may have survived in Australia. There are several yellow foundling roses still unknown.
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