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'Duchess of Wellington' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 108-530
most recent 16 FEB 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 FEB 18 by HubertG
Is this a sport of one of the Killarney roses? The 1910 Molyneux comment says "I have known this rose as "orange Killarney" ", but it isn't clear why he calls it this. Is it just a similarity to Killarney or was it one of the many sports of this rose? Does anyone here know? Looking at the photos of White Killarney there is a great similarity in habit and flowers.
I agree it would have been named after the 4th Duchess, not the Iron Duke's wife.

Edit dated 13/12/21: I'll answer my own question. Having learnt that all the Killarney roses were highly subject to mildew, so much so that they were almost impossible to grow without mildew afflicting them, I think it's highly unlikely that 'Duchess of Wellington' would be a sport of any of the Killarneys. The foliage of 'Duchess of Wellington' is exceptionally healthy for me; perhaps I wouldn't say mildew-proof, but close enough.
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Discussion id : 74-983
most recent 7 NOV 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 7 NOV 13 by Eric Timewell
Why the reference to the wife of the Iron Duke? Is there any evidence this rose was named in 1909 after her? Very unlikely. The Dicksons — "Rose Growers to H. M. the King" — were strong supporters of the British Empire, to which most of their Ulster roses were exported under Imperial Preference. They named many of them after contemporary members of the gentry and aristocracy. Kathleen Emily Bulkeley Williams (1845–1927) and her husband Arthur Charles Wellesley, fourth Duke of Wellington, lived in relative poverty in one of the best houses in London and were prominent at court and in parliament. Both came from military families.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 7 NOV 13 by Margaret Furness
Relative poverty is an interesting term, looking at those baubles!
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 7 NOV 13 by Eric Timewell
Relative to the other dukes, that is.
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