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'Souvenir de Gustave Prat' rose Reviews & Comments
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11 MAY 18 by
 Margaret Furness
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Available from - Wild Rose Nursery, Victoria, Australia
www.wildrosenursery.com.au/
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#1 of 5 posted
12 MAY 18 by
Patricia Routley
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Thank you Margaret. That is a fairly old rose. Does anybody have any idea of where it came from?
I have added Reuben Nieuwesteeg's nursery but I feel that it may be wholesale, and not retail?
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#2 of 5 posted
12 MAY 18 by
Margaret Furness
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The facebook page says they'll be open on the June long weekend. Maybe intermittently retail.
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#3 of 5 posted
17 APR 20 by
Patricia Routley
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For the record - From reply 7 of 12 in “Glenara No. 2” members comments, this rose was found by John Nieuwesteeg at Alister Clark’s property ‘Glenara’ sometime before 1995 and presumed to be ‘Souvenir de Gustave Prat’.
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#4 of 5 posted
17 APR 20 by
HubertG
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Copied from the "Glenara No. 2" file under comments, I asked:
"It would be very interesting if the pale yellow rose did happen to be 'Souvenir de Gustave Prat'.
Does anyone know if this yellow Glenara rose has red stamens? I ask because I remember reading a reference for 'Independence Day' (Mme Ed. Herriot x Souv. de G. Prat) which described it as having red stamens. 'Amy Johnson' (also from 'Souv. de G. Prat') also has red stamens, and I wondered if both these roses might have inherited their red stamen filaments from 'Souvenir de Gustave Prat' (especially since Mme Ed. Herriot appears to have yellow stamens). Just speculation, doesn't prove anything, but I'd be curious to know."
petera replied:
"Filaments are red on John N's 'Souv. de Gustave Prat' candidate."
I commented:
"Very interesting, petera, thanks. I found and added the 1922 reference to 'Independence Day' having bright red stamens. I won't profess to precisely understanding the inheritance patterns of stamen filament pigmentation but if two known offspring of 'Souvenir de Gustave Prat' have red filaments, there's a fair chance that SdGP did too, I'd say. If this yellow Glenara rose thought to possibly be SdGP has red filaments, I'd just say that it would strengthen that argument. It would be wonderful if we could have some photographs of the yellow Glenara rose."
petera posted:
"Not possible for the moment as I don't have it and I asked John checked a flower on his plant for me. He also said it had 15 or so petals which is on the low side of the description but just from one late-season flower."
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#5 of 5 posted
20 APR 20 by
HubertG
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For what it's worth - 'Cicely O'Rorke', another seedling of 'Souvenir de Gustave Prat', is also described in the 2019 reference as having dark red stamens. Also, you'd expect the yellow Glenara rose thought to be SdGPrat might set seeds pretty readily were it the authentic variety, since Clark seemed to like breeding from it.
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