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'Purple Heart ™' rose Reviews & Comments
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28 MAR 22 by
 pminor
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Purple heart has been a serious under performer in my garden. Not floriferous not fragrant not good cut flower. Just blah. I would replace it entirely but i see it isnt for dale anywhere anymore and feel guilty
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The description of 'Marie Osmond' says it is "armed with thorns/prickles", then two words later says it is "thornless"--which is it?
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One of the references says "prickles moderate" so at least it has some. We'Ve deleted "thornless", but it would be good to hear from the people who grow it....... Oopsy. Reading the comments shows Rosaholic commented in 2010 that his bush is thornless.
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It has a lot of stubble-type prickles. Nothing that bothered me.
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My tag for Purple Heart floribunda shows the registration name as WEKBIPHUIT, not WEKbipuhit (u and h transposed).
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So far, Purple Heart is my favorite of the Weeks Roses line or purple roses. Unfortunately, it is not as purple as some of the others. However, it wins in its vigor, health, repeat bloom abundance and fragrance. The color is quite unusual. In the spring, it is purple. In the summer, it is hot violet. In the fall, it is violet marred purple (looks kinda cool lol). Also, I like the size of the large clusters and they way the plant displays them.
If one is looking at this then Im sure they have considered the other Weeks Roses purple line, too. My preference is as follows:
Purple Heart
Ebb Tide (if it had more vigor, it'd be #1)
Wild Blue Yonder
Night Owl
Midnight Blue (hates the the heat or it'd be farther up)
Outta the Blue (I dug this one up. It was a disaster)
Neptune (mildew AND blackspot...gorgeous blooms on a disease magnet...sad)
Please note that this is my opinion and based on my zone of Oregon 8b/Portland Metro.
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What was the problem with 'Outta the Blue' Michael?
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Other than I thought it was beyond ugly (mostly magenta w/ some pale yellow), It's growth was awkward and it got some BS. I just found i aesthetically displeasing all around.
I did grow some seedlings from it. They acted weird. When they got water on their foliage (was about 10 seedlings), they'd defoliate. I never understood why, either.
In relative terms, I find the other purple blends better. But other than that, I really disliked it a lot. I do wish, however, that some day a purple/yellow or mauve/yellow bicolor shrublet or floribunda will be created on something healthy (and not magenta).
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Funny you should say this Michael as 'Outta the Blue' was recommended to me. I've never cared for it as much as others of this series. I have to say that 'Purple Heart' was really dreadful here, though it could be I didn't have it placed correctly or perhaps didn't give it enough of a chance. 'Midnight Blue' is actually good here but it does take a long time to cycle between flushes and the blossoms hold up best with some afternoon shade like most dark roses.
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#4 of 15 posted
24 MAR 08 by
Cass
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It seems that Carruth's Blue Roses are climate dependent. How else could these roses be so different in three different gardens?
I don't love the yellow centers of Outta the Blue, but they disappear in a morning. The plant reblooms like Iceberg, every 5 weeks, and it's large and healthy, with interesting disease-free foliage. Midnight Blue blooms all the time, judging from the hips, but the blooms last until noon and then turn to ash. It blackspotted in a wet spring. Wild Blue Yonder is a very healthy plant, decent color but never mauve here: pink. It and Night Owl don' repeat well, altho I don't coddle. No one mentioned Blueberry Hill. It's a nice rose, altho the repeat isn't fabulous in either of my gardens.
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Thanks for your input Cass. I wont give up on 'Outta the Blue' just yet. 'Blueberry Hill' never moved me. Sounds like it's another case of location, location, location.
Personal taste also comes into play.
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I didn't mention Blueberry Hill because it is a more true mauve than a purple/red mauve.
It does well here, but I opted not to get it because it isnt fragrant (or as fragrant) as a mauve could be. The foliage has a neat texture. I already have Distant Drums which is the same size but extremely healthy here, fragrant and silvery mauve/russet/orchid blend. It's hard to compete with that for a spot in the garden!
I mentioned Neptune because it is bred from big Purple, like all of the ones I mentioned and it is half-way between silvery mauve and purple mauve.
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Cass -- you didn't mention Ebb Tide. Any thoughts on it?
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#9 of 15 posted
31 MAR 09 by
Cass
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Sorry, Jeff, I've never grown Ebb Tide. I have no love of floribundas or HT's, for that matter. If the plant isn't bushy and clothed right to the ground in nice foliage, I won't grow it. Pruning can only accomplish so much...
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Thanks for responding (and so quickly, too). I have a strong preference for shrub roses myself since I use them in my garden as flowering shrubs, not as "roses" per se. Formal rose gardens are fun to visit, but I have no interest in having one. That said, I demand a lot from roses: disease resistance, continuous or rapid rebloom, attractive foliage, beautiful flowers, preferably fragrant. I have a small garden, only 25' by 65', so I can't afford to waste space on anything that doesn't perform well, whether it's a rose or any other plant. That's why this site is such a help to me -- I get lots more information here than I can ever get from someone selling me something.
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#15 of 15 posted
30 DEC 12 by
CarolynB
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QUOTE: "I demand a lot from roses: disease resistance, continuous or rapid rebloom, attractive foliage, beautiful flowers, preferably fragrant."
Jeff, I'm interested to know which roses you feel meet that group of requirements the best. Those are all requirements I like my roses to meet, too.
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I found Ebb Tide to be a very odd rose to grow here in my northwest Missouri zone 5b/6a. The Spring flush foundit to have very odd formed blooms. The petals were very diamond shaped and the blooms were small and pompon shaped with the funny petals. the following flushes in the late summer and fall were much better flowers all the way around, The flower petals were much more rounded and fatter thereby making a much better formed rose bloom. The fragrance was always outstanding though. Also the Fall flushes had lots more rose blooms as well. So, I pretty much use the spring flowers for breeding with and then I have the Fall flush to view the pretty flowers. I do love the dark purple color.
John
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I have a plant of Ebb Tide in my garden now. I couldn't resist. I left some comments about my experiences with in on the Ebb Tide pages, if you're interested.
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#8 of 15 posted
31 MAR 09 by
jedmar
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We tried a couple of Carruth's roses in Switzerland (Zone 7b). The most prolific bloomer was EbbTide (June-early July + end August-end October). Distant Drums also did well with June-early August + end of September, was a bit more prone to blackspot, however. Night Owl was next with a good June, very strong July and a couple of blooms mid October, behaving like a once-bloomer. Last was Midnight Blue in June and mid-end August. I can also confirm what Cass says, that her blooms do not last long at all.
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#10 of 15 posted
31 MAR 09 by
Cass
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Night Owl is a once bloomer here, too.
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I killed my Night Owl. It only had 2 bloom cycles. It grew extremely slow for a 3rd year climber, and the blooms were sparse. The color and health were good, however.
I replaced it with Oranges and Lemons, which acts like a short climber here. It blooms way more lol.
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