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Discussion id : 73-816
most recent 23 AUG SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 31 AUG 13 by bluebuster77
How this rose available in united states?? There are no retailer carry this rose in the states
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Reply #1 of 26 posted 31 AUG 13 by Rupert, Kim L.
Currently, there are no US sources, but there have been in the past. It's also quite possible florist stock was propagated and shared from one garden to another. There has been much of that here in California over the past thirty years. There have been many rose society auctions which have distributed an amazing selection of old, rare and unusual roses across the state.
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Reply #2 of 26 posted 31 AUG 13 by bluebuster77
Excellent info Kim. I think I need to join local rose society, I collected over 100 top rated roses already but not even enough. Thanks
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Reply #3 of 26 posted 31 AUG 13 by Rupert, Kim L.
You're welcome. The major upcoming auction is the CCRS Auction in November The information about it is here at this link.

http://www.ccrsauction.com/index.php

There are silent and live auctions on several hundred roses, some of which are not commercially available in the US currently. I think you will really enjoy the archival information available on the site about the past three years' auctions. The Ventura County Rose Society held amazing auctions for several years, all of which were Jim Delahanty's projects. I doubt with his passing, those will continue. The VCRS auctions also had some pretty wild catalogs, which became reference works, particularly for the "found" roses they contain.

The Sacramento Historic Cemetery has their Garden Celebration usually in April Their site is here.

http://www.cemeteryrose.org/

Jeri Jennings has created some wonderful catalogs for their sales which have also become reference works for the old, rare and found roses they contain. These special events can significantly open your eyes to some pretty wonderful roses you may not have been exposed to any other way. You'll enjoy them.
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Reply #4 of 26 posted 31 AUG 13 by bluebuster77
Thank you very much, I'm heading to Ventura county end of next month. Hope to be there again in November for this rose auction
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Reply #5 of 26 posted 31 AUG 13 by Rupert, Kim L.
You're welcome! The VCRS has a propagation demonstration for their November 21 meeting. Burling Leong will demonstrate her chip budding method. Clay Jennings will demo his rooting method and I will demo the "Burrito Method" of wrapping cuttings. The date, time and address are on their web site here.

http://www.venturarose.org/calendar.htm
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Reply #6 of 26 posted 31 AUG 13 by bluebuster77
I saw on the society calendar. I'm very familiar with burrito method, is this rooting on the main plant without cutting the branches? We been using this method on any kind of tropical plants in south east Asia region. Is this success in roses? Wonderful, I definitely want to see this
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Reply #7 of 26 posted 31 AUG 13 by Rupert, Kim L.
What you describe is layering or air layering. This requires removal of the cutting to wrap. I've detailed the process I was introduced to on my blog.

http://pushingtheroseenvelope.blogspot.com/2011/05/wrapping-cuttings.html

Beginning at the above link and reading the successive posts forward will provide you with all the information (including detailed photographs) gleaned to date about the subject. It relies upon some of the same responses as layering, but differs in key points.
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Reply #8 of 26 posted 31 AUG 13 by bluebuster77
Yes it's new for me and very interesting method of rooting
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Reply #9 of 26 posted 31 AUG 13 by Rupert, Kim L.
Once you get the method tweaked to your conditions and climate, it can be a very easy, highly successful method. It's enabled me to root roses in my conditions when nothing else has worked well.
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Reply #10 of 26 posted 31 AUG 13 by bluebuster77
Very simple and easy, i wrapped few cuttings. Only question on this method is that how to dip in hormone? is it just like normally dipping base of cuttings? Or Entire cutting? Because I saw roots emerge from most of the knots, MAGIC! I used mist box method previously and success is only 10-20%.
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Reply #11 of 26 posted 31 AUG 13 by Rupert, Kim L.
Just dip the bottom ends of the cuttings in the hormone of your choice. Some are going to root beautifully without any hormone. Some are going to fight you every step of the way. The hormone is not absolutely required, but it usually couldn't hurt!
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Reply #12 of 26 posted 31 AUG 13 by bluebuster77
I would think so, I appreciate for sharing new and easy rooting method.
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Reply #13 of 26 posted 31 AUG 13 by Rupert, Kim L.
You're welcome! I hope it proves useful for you.
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Reply #18 of 26 posted 8 SEP 13 by bluebuster77
Kim

You're a magician of propagation. What a great method that prove me reality. This is awesome! I used your method with 6 cuttings, including Vendera florist rose from my mom flower bouquet. Only a week I'm so curious what is going on? I open the burrito and found small young roots are forming 4 out of 6 cuttings, seemingly all are in great shape. Thanks again Kim
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Reply #19 of 26 posted 8 SEP 13 by Rupert, Kim L.
Congratulations! Actually, you must be the "magician". This method doesn't work in my climate this time of year with actively growing cuttings. I only succeed with it here in late winter to early summer with dormant material. Good job! If they are actually rooting, it might be time to plant them. The longer they remain in the wraps without light, the more stored resources they use up. They need light to photosynthesize food for themselves. Now comes the hard part. Planting them where they will receive light without cooking or drying up. You might want to take a look on my blog, paying attention to how deeply I plant them to start so they get some light, but remain cooler, damper and darker to encourage root development until they fill the bottoms of the pots. Good luck!
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Reply #20 of 26 posted 8 SEP 13 by bluebuster77
Do you means grow them in greenhouse condition?
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Reply #21 of 26 posted 8 SEP 13 by Rupert, Kim L.
If you have a green house where you can harden them off and let them mature where they won't fry, that would be great. I don't, so I experimented until I discovered planting them deeply so only the top inch or so of the cutting remained out of the soil where the sun could hit it worked for me here. That has permitted them to begin feeding themselves while the roots continue developing without them drying out and frying when the sun and air are too hot and dry. You'll have to experiment where you are to see what works best for you this time of the year.
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Reply #22 of 26 posted 8 SEP 13 by Jay-Jay
I discovered that some hours early morning sun do the trick, and in the beginning I cover the potted cuttings with a sandwich bag out of thin polypropyleen, held in place by an elastic band. (to keep the cuttings moist)
After a week or so, I make a cut in the plastic bag with a knife and open that slit little by little (to prevent moulding) during the next days, until it can be taken off.
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Reply #23 of 26 posted 8 SEP 13 by Rupert, Kim L.
I would fear covering anything with any kind of plastic here in much of California this time of year. It's too hot and too sunny. It would be like microwaving them in a very short period of time. Where it's cooler in comparison, as it is in your garden in The Netherlands, Jay Jay, absolutely, that should work just fine.
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Reply #14 of 26 posted 1 SEP 13 by Jay-Jay
Maybe is using this natural home-made rooting hormone an idea?
http://deepgreenpermaculture.com/diy-instructions/home-made-plant-rooting-hormone-willow-water/
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Reply #15 of 26 posted 1 SEP 13 by bluebuster77
Very interesting article, I definitely want to try that
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Reply #16 of 26 posted 1 SEP 13 by Jay-Jay
It did work for me at rooting the cuttings of the sport of Mozart, that I became of Maurice Reybaud.
See the comments at this photo: http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=21.173730&threadID=58112&tab=32
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Reply #17 of 26 posted 1 SEP 13 by bluebuster77
Wonderful propagation. Thanks for sharing!
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Reply #24 of 26 posted 2 NOV 17 by jmile
If you are still looking for Terra Cotta----I have sent some cuttings to K and M Roses to be grafted onto Fortuniana root stock. According to Jim Mills, these cuttings are doing great. They have been hardened and are being transfered into 1 gallon pots. If you would just like cuttings to start own root, I will send you cuttings. My Terra Cotta is a beast. It is 8 feet tall and it blooms all the time. The blooms are huge. Most of them are huge sprays.
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Reply #25 of 26 posted 2 NOV 17 by bluebuster77
Interested.
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Reply #26 of 26 posted 23 AUG by jmile
Are you still looking for Terracotta? I have several ---- It is a very healthy monster of a rose. I love the color in my garden. It is next to Out of Africa. They make quite a duo.
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Discussion id : 57-263
most recent 16 SEP 11 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 SEP 11 by Rosaholic's Southern California Garden
A favorite of mine. The only way to describe the color of this rose is luminescent. It has a sheen similar to satin cloth that I've not seen in any other rose, and which cannot be captured on camera (I've tried). It's hard to believe the claim that this is a sport of Leonidas. It is nothing like that variety -- this one doesn't have the major mildew problems and the color is stable -- it does not turn bright orange in the sun.
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Discussion id : 40-436
most recent 12 NOV 09 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 12 NOV 09 by John Moody
The Meilland bred russett hybrid tea "Terracotta" or "My Lovely" is no longer carried by Hortico which is quite a shame as that leaves no vendors for this lovely hybrid tea here in North America.
So you can contact me for information on how to get one.
John Moody
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Discussion id : 15-812
most recent 22 APR 09 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 5 JAN 07 by missy396
What is the difference between MEIcobuis and SIMchoca?  I just saw that Hortico was offering the Terracotta, but I am not sure which one, the MEIcobuis or SIMchoca?Is one preferable to another?  From what I have learned from this site, it appears that the MEIcobuis is the one I prefer, but I am not sure either way.  I am trying to duplicate what the florist used to sell to me.  BTW:  I have never grown anything in the ground before, but my husband is great at all of this.Thanks,Missy
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 7 JAN 07 by Cass
This is my best guess: that Meilland, which introduced both roses, has decided that the 2001 introduction, SIMchoca, is a better garden plant and is selling it instead of MEIcobuis, the sport of the florists' rose 'Leonidas.' Which variety Hortico is selling is a question that only Hortico answer.

I suspect that what the florist sold you is MEIcobuis/Terracotta. If it is like its parent 'Leonidas,' it can be a fussy, very difficult to grow garden plant.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 24 JAN 07 by missy396
Thanks so much for the response. I am still waiting for my Hortico purchase of nine plants. They are due to arrive in early March. I went to Wayside as well, and purchased five more. What do I need to due to get my soil ready? I live in Los Angeles, Ca. and am planting them in soil where the only roses we have ever planted were Iceburgs. They thrive, and although I did not choose them, I'll admit, they do well. Are the terracottas going to need more nourishment than those? Also, what about planting in a big pot? My husband thinks we should keep them all in the ground, but I might run out of space....
Thanks!!!
Michelle
PS Where does everyone else who has this rose purchase them from? I thought they were unavailable to the US unitl just recently...
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 22 APR 09 by John Moody
The Terracotta rose I grow is the MEIcobuis cultivar. My bush is not finicky or hard to grow at all. It is winter hardy in my zone 5 with no added protection other than a few leaves that fall from my oak and maple trees in the yard that cluster around the base of the plant. It is very vigorous growing and blooms alot. Most of the blooms are clusters but it does put out singles with long stems that make excellent cut roses as well. I spray monthly except for last year when I got sick and didn't spray from July til the end of growing season. It still stayed clean without spraying for four months. I got my Terracotta from a now defunct Keith's Garden Shack in the last year they did business in 2005. So this will be it's 5th year in my garden and it still looks really good this spring after whizzing through a rather dry Midwest winter. I would guess that if Hortico is offering a Terracotta, it would probably be this one, the MEIcobuis.
I highly recommend this to anyone who loves a novel color and nice fragrance as well.
Many visitors to my garden are very impressed with this rose.
John
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