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'Madame Chédane-Guinoisseau' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 90-181
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Initial post 7 JAN 16 by CybeRose
In a list of sports:

Journal des roses p. 106 (Juillet 1902)
Madame Falcot (Guillot fils, 1858), a produit Madame Chédane-Guinoisseau (Levet, 1880).

Mme Falcot (Guillot son, 1858), produced Madame Chedanne-Guinoisseau (Levet, 1880).
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 9 APR 18 by HubertG
From "Report of the Conference on Genetics (1906)"
"On the Derivation of Some Recent Varieties of Roses" by Arthur William Paul, Waltham Cross, Herts.

"... and some excellent new varieties of roses have also been obtained from branch sports of existing varieties. In the latter connection may be mentioned the Tea roses 'The Queen', 'Rainbow', and 'Madame Chédane Guinoisseau' ... "

It is not mentioned from what variety Mme C-G was supposed to have sported.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 10 APR 18 by Patricia Routley
Thanks HubertG - and Karl. I have added both your references and changed the parentage from "seedling of Safrano" to "sport of Mme. Falcot". It still seems very iffy, so have added a Note that 'Mme. Chedane Guinoisseau' could be either a sport of 'Safrano' or 'Mme. Falcot'.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 8 JUN 18 by Patricia Routley
Do you know HubertG, this reference[*] makes me think strongly of "Mulvay Rose". It might just have been that Stirling Macoboy in his 1993 reference told us what the "Mulvay Rose" was and we ignored it.

* oh, where has it gone..... perhaps I cut it instead of copying it. It was this 1887 ref:
From "The American Florist" 1887, page 58
"Mme C. Guinnoisseau is too nearly single for open air culture, and is superceded in color and habit by the new rose Comtess de Frigneuse."
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Reply #5 of 4 posted 24 MAY 19 by HubertG
The photo of 'Mme. Chedanne Guinoisseau' just posted by AmiRoses is rather exciting. I didn't know that this was in commerce. If this is the correct variety, then "Vestey's Yellow" isn't MmeCG.
It's rather more golden yellow that I imagined from the reference descriptions.
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