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'Madame Plantier' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 119-262
most recent 1 DEC 19 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 30 NOV 19 by Andrew from Dolton
I just had this rose arrive from David Austin. In the description on HMF says its lineage is damascena x moschata, I can't see how that would make it a hybrid China rose as well as an Alba or Hybrid Noisette?
Reply #1 of 1 posted 1 DEC 19 by Patricia Routley
Having read the Note in the 1940 reference, and other comments, I have deleted the class of china and noisette, leaving it as an alba.
Discussion id : 56-351
most recent 13 AUG 18 SHOW ALL
Initial post 28 JUL 11 by Hardy
Here's a question for those with a good grip on fragrance issues: looking over the list of components, I see none of the usual chinensis markers. Wouldn't that make it very unlikely to be a Noisette, or am I missing something?
Reply #1 of 4 posted 28 JUL 11 by jedmar
You are quite right. Compare with the article "Volatile Components in Chinese Roses": 'Mme Plantier' is missing the typical beta-ionone. It is very much an alba, as the comparison with the VOC analysis of 'Maiden's Blush' and 'Königin von Dänemark' shows. The very early classification as a Hybrid Noisette seems to be based not on a Noisette as a parent, but possibly R. moschata.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 29 JUL 11 by Palustris
I couldn't help wondering why it is so cold hardy. It will do well in US zone 4. I guess that explains it.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 13 AUG 18 by Michael Garhart
It's hard to say. Some species were often called musk rose in passing, that were not actually Rosa moschata.
Reply #4 of 4 posted 13 AUG 18 by Andrew from Dolton
Shakespeare's musk rose was Rosa arvensis.
Discussion id : 3-173
most recent 15 MAR 15 SHOW ALL
Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Unregistered Guest
I have a Madame Plantier Rose that is appromixately 5' tall and has no buds. It gets full sun and I keep the soil moist. My other roses are blooming and have been since June. This rose was planted at the same time. I am stymied becases I can't figure out why it isn't blooming. I also have been fertilizing with Schultz bloom pus (10-60-10). Please could you give me a suggestion on what to do,
Reply #1 of 2 posted 24 JUN 04 by Leslie_Pz
As I understand them, Mme Plantier roses like partial shade. I've even seen one site mention they like dappled shade.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 15 MAR 15 by Hardy
Mine does fine when in pretty deep shade, but its colony of PM also thrives. PM pressure here is intense, and it's probably a different strain than what most of you have, but depending on where you live, you might want to leave it in a pot at the intended location for a while, and see whether it stays healthy.
Discussion id : 759
most recent 7 FEB 13 SHOW ALL
Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Anonymous-797
I was told today that a beautiful white rose that climbs over a gate was a Madame Pierrier (it sounded like "Madame Pear- re-ay"). When I looked for the roseon your web site I could not find it. Any suggestions as to which rose I saw?

Reply #1 of 3 posted 23 APR 03 by Unregistered Guest
It might be Madame Alfred Carriere. Put that name into he search here on and you can read about it. I think this is the one you might want.
I have heard rose experts say this is a fabulous rose.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 7 FEB 13 by Plater
What comes to mind is Madame Alfred Carrière,
It fades to white rather quickly in sunshine
Reply #3 of 3 posted 7 FEB 13 by Jay-Jay
Not meant Madame Isaac Pereire? That sounds similar!
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