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'Isabelle Nabonnand' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 160-241
most recent 7 FEB HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 7 FEB by Margaret Furness
Isabelle Nabonnand has descendants listed, as seed parent. Would someone please post a hip photo.
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Discussion id : 112-984
most recent 11 SEP 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 SEP 18 by Arturo Tarak
I have a young own root plant of Isabelle Nabonnand. I'm interested in the architecture of this plant. Instead on an upright bush it is low spreading and tends to fall downwards over a stone edge more like a ground cover. Does any have this behaviour unlike my other teas which are upright. Arturo
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 11 SEP 18 by Margaret Furness
G Nabonnand and its sport Peace (1902) sprawl, and can layer themselves (root down). My Teas were mostly disbudded through their first summer (it was in a drought), and many have made mounds of green down to the ground.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 11 SEP 18 by Arturo Tarak
Perhaps this type of comment could be added to the general description of the plant. I would love to see that section expanded in general. I'm sure that there's much more occurring out in the gardens that has yet to be included. Thank you very much for your comment, because first it outrules my induced temptation of trying to grow my I.Nabonnand in a conventional way. I don't have access to any of its few descendants so I don't know if it is a trait that is transmitted any further. This ground covering habit is a very intersting trait for further breeding.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 11 SEP 18 by Patricia Routley
In my cool, damp conditions in the south west of Western Australia, all the teas grow up and are very bare legged. I would kill for mounds of green down to the ground, but it would never happen here.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 11 SEP 18 by Arturo Tarak
Patricia I love yor addition. It simply proves my suspicion: Variability in growth pattern within any given cultivar. I have to come to grips with this question :how to contribute to this worldwide data base on rose growth variability. HMF local member Rafael Maino has posted quite a few pictures of his bushes and they are upright. My plant is from a cutting from his garden. Is it just cultural practise or there are groundcover sporting forms as there are for climbing? Thank you
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 11 SEP 18 by scvirginia
If the parent plant you got cuttings from lives nearby in a similar climate, could the different habits have to do with maturity?

Do you know if Rafael Maino's plants were always upright, or did they start to sprawl less as they got older?

Virginia
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 11 SEP 18 by Arturo Tarak
Actually the parent plants pictured by Rafael here at HMF are quite older. They are upright and bushy, not sprawling. My plant, always kept its sprawling character just from the start as a first year cutting. We both live in the town, however where Rafael lives is much more humid ( some years his rainfall can reach double of mine) and has less severe winters. My summers can build higher accumulated temperatures. I'm in a more desert type of climate and environment.
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