I have Comtesse de Noghera and she's way taller than she should be. She's almost 2 meters or seven feet. Her flowers are golden with cream, very beautiful and a strong fragrance is present. She isn't pink or salmon pink so it is correct that the rose in Europe sold as Comtesse de Noghera is in fact Madame Jules Gravereaux. I got mine from Loubert...
Edit: The second flush in much warmer weather gave me light pink to salmon pink flowers. Fragrance is strong Tea with fruity notes
comtesse de noghera from whichever nursery can show the typical colors of mme jules gravereaux depending on wheather impact such as temperature and humidity.
I agree, this rose in commerce is incorrect. Apart from appearing identical they are both very difficult to take from cuttings and the own-root plants are very weak
