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'Fabvier' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 83-105
most recent 14 FEB 15 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 14 FEB 15 by John Hook
Our nursery isn't showing up as premium on searches, I think the renewal is 5 march and I've had no reminders etc (la Roseraie du Désert)

Oops, wrong place!
Reply #1 of 1 posted 14 FEB 15 by Jay-Jay
The nursery isn't, but John Hook is... as well as Becky Hook.
Discussion id : 72-529
most recent 24 JUN 13 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 24 JUN 13 by AquaEyes
Per the paper linked below (in Table 4, beginning on the paper's page 28), this rose is triploid. I am cross-posting this comment on all others mentioned which do not already have their ploidies mentioned in their descriptions.


Discussion id : 65-051
most recent 8 MAR 13 SHOW ALL
Initial post 14 JUN 12 by Patricia Routley
There is a 2003 reference which suggests that "Martha Gonzales" is 'Fabvier'.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 8 MAR 13 by John Hook
I have been told that this rose is genetically identical to Fabvier but they are obviously 2 different roses (flowers foliage and growth), maybe its a sport in the same way as Spray Cecile Brunner is to Cecile Brunner.
Discussion id : 49-272
most recent 24 SEP 11 SHOW ALL
Initial post 30 OCT 10 by Margaret Furness
I'm airing my ignorance here, but has anyone grown Fabvier and White Pearl in Red Dragon's Mouth side by side? Given that the one of earliest references for Fabvier mentions a full, domed, once-blooming pink rose, I'm wondering if a mixup occurred soon after.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 24 SEP 11 by IanM
I think you may be right Margaret. Both bloom in flushes, so that early reference to 'Fabvier' being once blooming is intriguing. The name 'White Pearl in Red Dragon's Mouth' does sound more like 'Fabvier', but then a pearl is fairly tiny so it may relate to the way the white circle is hidden within the "dragon's mouth" (i.e. red petals)?? Even so, I am at a loss to know how to tell 'White Pearl in Red Dragon's Mouth' from 'Cramoisi Superieur'!!
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