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'Anne Leygues' rose Reviews & Comments
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3 JAN 19 by
Patricia Routley
As per the Comments in ‘Rosette Delizy, the parentage for ‘Anne Leygues’ is now changed from Comtesse Bardi (tea, Soupert & Notting, 1895) to Comtesse de Bardi (tea, Nabonnand, 1899)
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7 SEP 09 by
Patricia Routley
From 'Souvenir d'un Ami' comments: Reply #8 of 9 posted 23 MAR by Margaret Furness [HMF supporting member] I'm getting tangled here. Am I reading it right Billy, that your description refers to the rose sold incorrectly in Aus and NZ as Souvenir d'un Ami and in the US as General Tartas?
Reply #9 of 9 posted 23 MAR by Billy Teabag [HMF supporting member] Yes - that's right. .....................
Has anybody ever considered 'Anne Leygues'? I have just put some references in for this rose and it was once loved in Australia and I note that its seed parent was 'General Schablikine'. I have what's sold in Australia as 'Souvenir d'un Ami' (pictured on p97 of Nancy Steen) planted right next door to 'General Schablikine' (came as "Vestey's Pink Tea") and sometimes the only difference in the two roses is the pedicel - rough in 'General Schablikine' and smooth in 'not - Souvenir d'un Ami'.
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#1 of 2 posted
7 SEP 09 by
billy teabag
I know what you mean about the sometime similarity of General Schablikine and our "Not Souv d'Un Ami" and have gone down this line of inquiry too.
To date, references to 'Anne Leygues' don't give us a lot of useful botanical detail. It was admired as a free-blooming decorative in Australia and it was an impressive winter bloomer for Alister Clark. The frustratingly sparse descriptions of form and colour suggest a reddish, semi-double rose rather than one that varies widely in fullness and colour like our "Not Souvenir d'un Ami"/ "Huntington Mme de Tartas"/"The rose sold as General Tartas" which I think would be described as pink rather than red.
This rose has a number of quite distinctive features. It is the most sweetly fragrant of any Tea I know, the reverses of the new leaves often show a purplish 'port wine sheen', and the hip is unusually shaped for a Tea - a bit like a pear. The leaflets often do the 'taco' thing - folding up a little from the midrib into a v-profile. The bloom can be quite dark in colour and have fewer petals in the heat of summer when the blooms look very loose and ragged, while in winter it can produce many-petalled pale coloured blooms. In the milder seasons it tends to be rose pink with suggestions of coral, but it comes in a very wide range of shades of pink. I have scoured the literature for any roses with all or any of these features and I know you've done the same. Have wondered whether it might be 'Mme Philémon Cochet', 'Goubault', the real 'Comtesse Riza du Parc' and a dozen others.
I'll add a few pics taken here over the years. It doesn't look much like General Schablikine in any of these pics, but gives a range of colour.
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#2 of 2 posted
7 SEP 09 by
Patricia Routley
Thanks Billy. The reddish semi-doubleness of 'Anne Leygues' is off-putting, I do agree. It was the parentage which lead me up the garden path, as well as Alister Clark talking about 'G. Nabonnand', General Schablikine' and 'Anne Leygues' flowering at the same time. The first two are flowering here now only "Not Souvenir d'un Ami' is a little behind 'G. Nab' and General Schablinky (sorry - can't resist it. :)
I too have considered 'Mme. Philemon Cochet' and when you read The Old Rose Advisors description ...."Good vigour....leaves staying purple for a long time underneath...pedicel smooth....I think it is certainly one of the contenders.
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#3 of 2 posted
8 SEP 09 by
billy teabag
G. Nabonnand (and Peace 1902), General Schablinky and Safrano and Isabella Sprunt are madly blooming here too. Gen Schablikine flowers much more in the winter here than it does in the summer and the winter blooms of Safrano and Isabella Sprunt are nothing short of sublime. Reve d'Or has some lovely flowers at the moment too and the rose that may be Auguste Comte (Not Mme Hoste in the Tea book - we have it here under the study names "Hay Valley Tea" and "Nantawarra Pink") is also flowering - not profusely, but they have a reasonable number of blooms -all on very kinky curly pedicels. It's an interesting rose - nice strong dark foliage. During the colder weather, the new shoots are so red! They attract the parrots....
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