'Rosa sinica cv. 'Fortunes yellow' Regel' rose reviews and comments

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'Rosa sinica cv. 'Fortunes yellow' Regel' rose Reviews & Comments

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Discussion id : 150-988 most recent 28 SEP 23 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 28 SEP 23 by CybeRose

The name 'Gold of Ophir' has sometimes been used for the Noisette 'Ophirie'.	REPLY

Discussion id : 22-129 most recent 26 SEP 23 SHOW ALL

Initial post 19 OCT 07 by Unregistered Guest

I also would like to (urgently) know more about this rose! To what zone has this been successfully grown? (I am in Western Maryland, in a mountainous region with many niches ranging through Zone 6a, 6b and 5. The garden is full-sun, south-facing, protected by the house to the north ...I believe I am in the zone 6 range.) Has anyone in my zone/region successfully grown this as a tall climber? Does this rose tend to bleach out considerably with full sun, or does it retain the pink/gold coloration? Is the foliage lush and healthy or is it sparse? How long and how prolific is the bloom time, etc? I am looking for a romantic tall climber of this coloration to wrap around the columns and arch over my wrap-around porch. Ideally, I am looking for a plant that will reach 15 to 20 feet, have foliage that looks nice when the plant is not blooming and have glowing yellow and pink blooms. I am almost to the point of giving up and settling for a tall pink climber like Cecile Brunner or New Dawn that is reliable but not so exciting to me (I really like the yellow mixed in) or looking for a prolific, tall red climber. Any suggestions, comments? (suggestions on tall, prolific red climbers also welcomed!) Thanks very much, all suggestions welcomed! Cynthia

Reply #1 of 9 posted 22 JUN 08 by HMF supporting member

Margaret Furness

This rose is a hooker (leaps out and grabs passers-by). Don't plant it anywhere near your house or a path! Ditto New Dawn. It would be worth asking a local nurseryman about Crepuscule in your district.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 9 posted 15 JUL 17 by Andrew from Dolton

Reply #3 of 9 posted 26 SEP 23 by CybeRose

I had a similar problem with R. wichuraiana poteriifolia. Tiny little hooks. I had the plant in a pot on a wall. Somehow the slightest breeze sent the wiry canes right at me. And sometimes no breeze, I 'm sure. Mean little critter. Rose growing is not for sissies.	REPLY

Reply #4 of 9 posted 26 SEP 23 by HMF supporting member

Robert Neil Rippetoe

Yes! Wichurana 'Thornless' has the same issues, no prickles on the stems, but prickles on the underside of the leaves are vicious!	REPLY

Reply #5 of 9 posted 26 SEP 23 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

Today I have my third weekly appointment to check the dressing on a ‘Laure Davoust’ inflicted slice on my leg when I took the mower a little too close to the rose. It won’t stop me from loving roses, but it does remind me to take more care.	REPLY

Reply #6 of 9 posted 26 SEP 23 by CybeRose

Years ago, I was visiting the Heritage Rose Garden in San Jose. I stopped to sniff 'Penelope', one of my favorite Hybrid Musks, when I saw a plump hip that was just out of reach from above. I crawled under the large bush, grabbed what I wanted, then pulled back just a little too quickly. That's how I got an impressively large thorn stuck in the back of my head, just below the skull. I moved forward a bit, and much more cautiously, and got unhooked. Somehow I lost interest in hip collecting for the rest of the afternoon.

Reply #7 of 9 posted 26 SEP 23 by HMF supporting member

Robert Neil Rippetoe

These are reasons why I've been obsessed with creating smooth roses for years and have submitted many beauties for trial. Invariably they were shot down for one reason or another. don't fare as well in cold storage for some reason but with production methods going toward own-root production this should be less of an issue.

IF the public made smoothness a priority the market would respond.

I still have a bone to pick with HMF since truly smooth roses cannot be identified here.

In my opinion, going forward, HMF should attempt to list grades of smoothness, or lack thereof.

Roses are always evolving and there is no reason whatsoever the future should include the horrors of being sliced alive in perpetuity.

Reply #9 of 9 posted 26 SEP 23 by HMF supporting member

Lee H.

By the end of the growing season, I’ve become so insensitive to prickles, that unless one gets me in the face, I hardly notice. Recently, I found my wife fretting over our dog, who apparently was tracking bloody paw prints over the house. Turned out that I’d tangled with one of my babies, and blood was dripping down my arm, unbeknownst to me. The dog had only stepped in it.

And no, she didn’t fret over me; quite the opposite, actually ;-)

Reply #8 of 9 posted 26 SEP 23 by HMF supporting member

Nastarana

FDYC is generally thought to be a tea or even gigantea hybrid and, alas, likely not hardy colder than one 7. Howsomever, wait another 2-4 yrs. and you might find you are in that zone, LOL.

Have you considered any of the newer Kordes climbers, among which there seem to be some quite nice yellow and goldish cultivars? If it were me, I would of course plant my two yellow climbing faves, 'Cl. Sun Flare' and 'Golden Celebration', but neither of those is pinkish. Another fave is 'Polka', for the color you want, but I don't know how well it could be trained.

If you want a single rose, Austin's 'Morning Mist' might suit. I've not grown or seen it, but it is said to grow tall, pix show a large, color changing flower. I, myself, am not a fan of 'Westerland', but it does have a large following and is not hard to source. I seem to recall that John Clemons introduced at least one climber in the colors you want. Maybe check the Heirloom website.

Discussion id : 146-473 most recent 7 JUL 23 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 7 JUL 23 by fortune

Can it tolerate -15°C?	REPLY

Discussion id : 121-676 most recent 20 MAY 20 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 20 MAY 20 by Arturo Tarak

Hello everyone, I've got a huge FdY growing against a north facing wall ( that is the warm side here in the SH.) Its own root amd basically very healthy with canes that grow beyond a first floor balcony eave. However no blooms after second year of extraordinary growth. Does it need pruning severely to get itself to bloom? If so, with which criterion?.TiA.Arturo	REPLY