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Discussion id : 131-683
most recent 29 AUG 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 13 FEB 22 by scvirginia
In the July 1900 issue of Die Gartenwelt there is a write-up of Peter Lambert's new white Hybrid Perpetual with 2 photos (pages 500-501). I'm reasonably certain this is a reference to 'Frau Karl Druschki' before it was named, but would appreciate it if someone who reads German could take a look to confirm.
Unfortunately, I can't link to the text; this comment already got kicked out when I tried to include a link to the Biodiversity Heritage Library site where I found the reference.

Thanks,
Virginia
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 13 FEB 22 by jedmar
The text is: "Die schönste Züchtung, die bei ihrer Einführung zweifellos grosses Aufsehen erregen wird, ist eine weisse Remontantrose, deren Mutterpflanze, ein kräftig entwickelter Strauch, gerade zur Zeit unseres Besuches mit Blüten überdeckt war. Die Knospe ist fast cylinderförmig, die Blüte sehr gross, edel in der Form mit zurückgeschlagenen Petalen und angenehm duftend, der Wuchs des Strauches ist ausserordentlich kräftig, jeder Trieb bringt eine der edlen, einzelnstehenden Blüten." Translated: "The most beautiful variety, which will no doubt cause a stir when it is introduced, is a white hybrid perpetual whose mother plant, a vigorously developed shrub, was covered in flowers just at the time of our visit. The bud is almost cylindrical, the flower is very large, noble [high-centered] in shape with reflexed petals and pleasantly fragrant, the growth of the shrub is extraordinarily strong, each cane bears one of the noble, solitary blooms."
The photos look like 'Frau Karl Druschki', but pleasantly fragrant would be an exaggeration.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 14 FEB 22 by scvirginia
Many thanks!

I think 'pleasantly fragrant' is marketing speak for 'if you *can* smell it, it doesn't stink'. If most people can actually smell it, it becomes delightfully fragrant or deliciously perfumed or something similar... :>)

I'll see if I can find a mention of 'FKD' in a later issue that refers back to the earlier article...
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 29 AUG 22 by scvirginia
I am reasonably certain that there is a reference to the photo being 'FKD" in Die Gartenwelt, July 1904, p.512:
"Die Ausstellung des Vereins deutscher Rosenfreunde."

"...Der zweite Schlager ist "Frau Karl Druschki" gewesen, eine riesenblumige, edelgebaute, weiße Remontantrose, die ich, als einer der ersten, auf dem Sämling in Trier blühen sah und deren Abbildung ich, ihren Wert sofort erkennend, bereits im IV Jahrg. (1900), S. 501, zu einer Zeit brachte, da sie noch ungetauft war. Die Sorte ist außerordentlich starkwüchsig; sie ist deshalb weder als Hochstamm noch als Wurzelhalsveredlung zur Gruppenbepflanzung geeignet, sondern sie ist eine Strauchrose zur Vorpflanzung vor Gehölzegruppen und zur Einzelpflanzung. Wie aber vollkommenes auf dieser Erde niemals keimt, so hat auch "Frau Karl Druschki" ihren Fehler. Ihre Blüten sind vollständig geruchlos, was einen schwer empfundenen Mangel bedeutet, den man einer Rose nicht leicht verzeiht."

Please excuse any typos—they almost certainly mine, not theirs.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 29 AUG 22 by jedmar
Yes, that clinches the 1900 reference!
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Discussion id : 97-100
most recent 14 DEC 20 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 27 JAN 17 by Chris
its happy, grafted in my zone 5 front yard with no protection HT? i doubt it
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 27 JAN 17 by Patricia Routley
Bearing in mind the pollen parent was a HT...... I doubt it too. Now listed as HP only.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 27 JAN 17 by Margaret Furness
Merveille de Lyon, the seed parent, is technically HT too, with Safrano as a parent. Maybe some wayward bees.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 14 DEC 20 by goncmg
Going to applaud the HP classification. Here in Florida this plant is once blooming, spring only. Gives some stunning, big, clear clean white blossoms for about 2 weeks and that is that. Might toss me one lone bloom around September.
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Discussion id : 110-603
most recent 9 MAY 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 MAY 18 by JasonSims1984
This rose is also sometimes classified as an early hybrid tea because one of its parents is a hybrid tea, and its bud shape is essentially classic tea form.
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Discussion id : 104-012
most recent 4 AUG 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 AUG 17 by Sambolingo
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