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'Hovyn de Tronchère' rose Reviews & Comments
most recent 25 MAY 22  
Initial post 25 MAY 22 by Margaret Strathalbyn
I think there must be two roses in commerce as Hovyn de Tronchere, neither matching early descriptions.
As I read it, one is the same as "Lady Mary Fitzwilliam - in commerce as".
I'm told the other matches "Agnes Saffron's Early Tea".
most recent 1 JUN 20  
Initial post 1 JUN 20 by jennifer
This rose looks like my and many pictures of Lady Mary Fitzwilliam. I'm wondering if my, perhaps all, Lady Mary Fitzwilliams, grown out there are actually this rose. LMF was supposedly a weak grower, very fragrant, and set hips. My LMF is about 3.5 feet tall, nearly scentless, and to my memory, does not set any hips.
most recent 21 APR 18  
Initial post 21 APR 18 by HubertG
The Journal des Roses reference tells us that it is "issue de Règulus".

Whether it is the correct variety or not 'Hovyn de Tronchere' is listed at the Rose Antiche S'orrosa nursery.
Reply #1 posted 21 APR 18 by Patricia Routley
Thank you HubertG. We've added the parentage, (choosing the 1860 tea over the 1806 gallica 'Regulus').

Some of the photos in this file might be 'Lady Mary Fitzwilliam' (syn "Whittle Light Pink Tea").
most recent 8 MAY 10  
Initial post 20 JAN 09 by kai-eric
specimens in commerce under this name not consistent with contemporary descriptions.
eventually an early hybrid tea.
Reply #1 posted 8 MAY 10 by Cass
Definitely true. This is identical to the rose collected in California under the study name "Whittle Light-Pink Tea." I grow both in my garden, and I believe that they are the same cultivar, not a Tea, but an early Hybrid Tea. Scentless.