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'Goethe' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 116-705
most recent 21 MAY 19 SHOW ALL
Initial post 11 MAY 19 by CMalarkey
I would like to know can anyone supply a reference to support the statement I've read that Graham Thomas disparaged 'Goethe.'
Reply #1 of 7 posted 12 MAY 19 by jedmar
'Goethe' is not mentioned in either of GST's books on Shrub roses.
Reply #2 of 7 posted 15 MAY 19 by Palustris
Yes, that's correct, but he did mention 'Goethe' in the GST 'Rose Book'

" A rather unsuccessful merging of two dissimilar parents, R. multiflora and a moss rose. Very vigorous, excessively prickly with much bristly brownish-green moss. Panicles of flowers are born freely; they are small semi-double or nearly single, light crimson to pink, with some scent. 5 feet"
Reply #3 of 7 posted 15 MAY 19 by jedmar
I am intrigued: where does he say that? The "Rose Book" is a compendium of his two books on Shrub roses plus "Climbing Roses Old and New" and I could not find a mention in any of These.
Reply #4 of 7 posted 16 MAY 19 by Patricia Routley
Page 64. In between ‘Gloire des Mousseux’ and ‘Henri Martin’.
Reply #5 of 7 posted 16 MAY 19 by jedmar
Those two are on p. 187 of "Old Shrub Roses" and there is nothing in between. It seems GST did not just add the 3 books, but revised the text. I will have to get the "Rose Book" too.
Reply #6 of 7 posted 21 MAY 19 by kgs
Here's the citation:

Thomas, Graham Stuart. The Graham Stuart Thomas Rose Book. Portland, Or.: Sagapress/Timber, 1994.

The ISBN is 0881922803. A note in the bibliographic record states, "Comprising The old shrub roses. Shrub roses of today. Climbing roses old and new; enlarged and thoroughly revised." The last statement suggests GST not only compiled three books but added material.
Reply #7 of 7 posted 21 MAY 19 by jedmar
Thank you, I ordered it! Cheapest was to buy it from USA.
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