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Discussion id : 112-962
most recent 10 SEP 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 SEP 18 by Michael Garhart
I have a feeling that it wasn't bred from Frau Karl Druschki. I could see the pollen parent being probable though.

Like, maybe there was a typo somewhere and it was originally this?

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.25248.0

We can't know without genetic testing or unfound documents, but I find FKD to be highly suspect.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 10 SEP 18 by HubertG
The earliest references in Rosen-Zeitung class it as a Hybrid Polyantha with no references to its parentage that I can see.
FKD x Franz Deegen is indeed suspect.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 10 SEP 18 by Michael Garhart
Yeah. That makes sense.

The foliage, at least to me, screams Aglaia descendent.
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Discussion id : 99-088
most recent 8 MAY 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 8 MAY 17 by Patricia Routley
1916 The Rose Annual
p104. Walter Easlea. Dwarf Polyantha Roses. 1909 Gruss an Aachen

p110. Ibid. There is a tendency on the part of raisers to produce varieties with large blooms. I refer to such as Gruss an Aachen and 'Mosella'. These come very near to being Hybrid Teas and are very charming. 'Gruss an Aachen' is a Rose that should be in every collection, but as a poly-pom it seems out of place.
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Discussion id : 78-435
most recent 13 JUN 15 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 22 MAY 14 by Patricia Routley
What would Gruss an.... translate to - Greetings to? or Greetings from?
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 22 MAY 14 by Jay-Jay
Greetings to (the town/city of) Aachen.
In Germany, situated just across the border of the province Limburg in the south of the Netherlands. Famous for it's delicacy Aachener Printen. And the Dom, in which emperor Charlemagne is buried http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aachen_Cathedral.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 23 MAY 14 by Patricia Routley
Thanks Jay-Jay, I knew you could help with this one. Somewhere I saw a reference wherein they had called it 'Greetings From Aachen'. My Websters German-English Dictionery confuses me with [an]: adv on; onward, at, against, on, upon, by, to.......... so I am grateful.
Patricia
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 23 MAY 14 by Jay-Jay
The rest of the info is in the mail.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 13 JUN 15 by boopie
I was born in Stuttgart Germany. So the name of this rose captured me. The flowers are pretty, but I am not yet overly impressed. I will give it a couple of years before I make a final decision on whether to keep it or find a good home for it.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 13 JUN 15 by Margaret Furness
Some of the photos on hmf don't look double enough to be the rose I'm growing (which is excellent). Maybe there are two being sold under the name.
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Discussion id : 46-126
most recent 4 APR 12 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 22 JUN 10 by Carlene
I had this rose in a pot in part-shade. I live in zone 9a. It is hot and humid here - and when it did bloom (which wasn't that often) the blooms balled and didn't open properly. I water and fertilize regularly, and my other roses in similar light conditions were doing fine. Perhaps this is a rose for cooler climates, where it might perform better.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 24 JUN 10 by Darrell
I thought I wrote those words, but since I'm not Carlene, those are my sentiments exactly. And I too live in the same zone.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 13 JAN 11 by Chris
this is all about the Frau Karl parentage and balling in the rain.
I still love the Frau, though, but she probably needs an awning to be happy.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 13 JAN 11 by Margaret Furness
"It's not the heat. it's the humidity..." Gruss an Aachen and Frau Karl Druschki are happy in my dry-summer zone 10a.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 4 APR 12 by MichaelG
Here in southern Appalachia we have mild, damp conditions that favor balling in roses, and I have discarded a number of varieties for that reason. I have not had this problem with Gruss an Aachen or Pink Gruss. I wonder if the problem described above is peculiar to Florida and similar climates. This is odd, because the Florida climate is not particularly bad for balling.

In my garden, these roses, on their own roots, and with 5 hours of sun, quickly grew to 3.5' x 3.5' with excellent repeat bloom. The plant habit is graceful and compact, requiring little pruning. They are susceptible to blackspot.
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