'Hector Deane' rose reviews and comments

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'Hector Deane' rose Reviews & Comments

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Discussion id : 132-775 most recent 27 APR 23 SHOW ALL

Initial post 9 MAY 22 by Hamanasu

I wrote to Peter Beales (the only source for this variety in the UK) to ask if Hector Deane and other old hybrid teas dropped from their catalogue would be re-introduced. Their reply: 'Sadly we had to cut our rose list during Covid times, to concentrate on more reliable stock. I don`t think that these will be returned to our catalogue in the near future, so sorry to disappoint you.'
La Campanella (Italy)... gone. La Roseraie du Desert (France)... gone (or rather, surviving only as a shadow of its former self). And now this. I feel the pain US rose lovers must have experienced when Vintage Gardens closed down.

Reply #1 of 11 posted 9 MAY 22 by HMF supporting member

Johno

Reply #2 of 11 posted 10 MAY 22 by HMF supporting member

Margaret Furness

Reply #3 of 11 posted 10 MAY 22 by Hamanasu

Thank you both. I wonder who is still growing this in England... Mottisfont used to have small bush in a bed devoted to a small collection of older hybrid teas, but that's gone now to make room for a re-designed garden. Even if I could obtain budwood or wood, I don't have the skills or facilities to graft, and own-root roses often do poorly here (indeed, even when they are grafted pernetianas struggle a bit in this climate).

Reply #4 of 11 posted 10 MAY 22 by HMF supporting member

Johno

To bud a rose is not difficult. Check out the You Tube videos to show you how. One can be successful with basic equipment of a leather glove, stanley knife and something to keep the bud in place -budding tape, even dental floss will do the trick. It is a good idea to hang onto those suckers and bud on a new rose. Good luck with your search.	REPLY

Reply #5 of 11 posted 10 MAY 22 by Hamanasu

Reply #6 of 11 posted 25 APR 23 by HMF supporting member

Give me caffeine

Just saw this, and the other comments. Would love to get some, if you know anyone who has some to spare. I'll also make a point of asking Ross Roses if there is still a surviving plant at the old T4R nursery. If there is, they should be able to propagate from it.	REPLY

Reply #7 of 11 posted 25 APR 23 by HMF supporting member

Johno

Should not be a problem. It is listed as growing in Petticoat Lane in the Garden section of HMF.	REPLY

Reply #8 of 11 posted 26 APR 23 by HMF supporting member

Margaret Furness

Brian Wagner has access to Petticoat Lane - perhaps you and Bonita's group could put in a combined order (I'd be in it too), but you'd be looking at 2025 for delivery.	REPLY

Reply #9 of 11 posted 27 APR 23 by HMF supporting member

Give me caffeine

Ah, I just looked up Petticoat Lane. I had assumed it was just another private garden, but it sounds like a great initiative. I'd be more than happy to help support them with orders, once they are ready to take them.	REPLY

Reply #10 of 11 posted 27 APR 23 by HMF supporting member

Margaret Furness

I've confused you - Petticoat Lane is National Trust, and isn't a commercial enterprise (other than selling fruit to visitors and herbs to local cafes via an honesty box). It doesn't sell roses. Brian Wagner donated some plants to it, mainly Bishop's Lodge roses, and has access to budwood from it in exchange.
Brian tells us that budding small numbers for special orders isn't commercially viable - freelance budders like doing a thousand at a time, and 50 is about the minimum they tolerate.
He is still doing orders for Bishop's Lodge.

Reply #11 of 11 posted 27 APR 23 by HMF supporting member

Give me caffeine

Fair enough. :) I'm not in a rush for this one anyway.	REPLY

Discussion id : 140-678 most recent 25 APR 23 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 25 APR 23 by Bonita

Last Saturday I took blooms of 'Hector Deane' to our Good Day Out rose gathering where we have a 'Show and Tell'. People swooned over its perfume. Fifteen people requested I arrange budded plants from my bush. Looking around for a budder as our local expert has retired.	REPLY

Discussion id : 75-355 most recent 30 NOV 13 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 30 NOV 13 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

'Hector Deane' has few prickles up where the blooms are, but many large thorns below.	REPLY

Discussion id : 71-709 most recent 20 MAY 13 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 17 MAY 13 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

To Georgina Campbell, How did you go on finding a 'Hector Deane' in New Zealand? Was anybody able to help you?	REPLY

Reply #1 of 7 posted 18 MAY 13 by Georgina Campbell

At this stage no Hector Deane has shown up in NZ. Learnt something interesting thought and that is that rose members coming over for the World Fed Convention at Palmerston North in Nov are bringing in roses to exhibit yet I can't bring in budwood like that. Possibly Kelvin or David might be able to bring over some roses to exhibit that I am hunting for.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 7 posted 19 MAY 13 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

'Hector Deane' has to be there somewhere. See the 1949 reference where Hamilton adopted it as a community rose; Whangarei also adopted it - see 1951 reference. Can you contact the Rose Societies for Whangarei and Waikato? Older members may still have it.

I am sorry I can't help with the New Zealand customs. (I can't help thinking of David's Ruston's book 'a Life With Roses' p41 where he went into Auckland airport with some ostrich feathers, originally from a 1903 garden party at Buckingham Palace. The bamboo supports for the feathers were confiscated, but he got the feathers in as millinary!) I actually thought David raided the local gardens for plant material for his flower demonstrations. I would shudder if I saw him approaching with secs, but I would be most honoured to give him anything at all that he needed.

Reply #3 of 7 posted 19 MAY 13 by Georgina Campbell

I'll follow those clues - thanks.	REPLY

Reply #4 of 7 posted 19 MAY 13 by HMF supporting member

Margaret Furness

Hector Deane strikes readily from cuttings in warm weather, using a variant of Mike Shoup's ziplock bag technique. In May/early winter I generally do better with in-ground cuttings, provided someone else will dig them up next winter!	REPLY

Reply #5 of 7 posted 19 MAY 13 by Georgina Campbell

Thanks for that guidance - are you tripping next winter?	REPLY

Reply #6 of 7 posted 19 MAY 13 by HMF supporting member

Margaret Furness

No, but the digging can be too hard on a whinging back - I remember trying to extract Veilchenblau a year after the cuttings went into the ground...	REPLY

Reply #7 of 7 posted 20 MAY 13 by Georgina Campbell

Ah - yes some certainly grow like tryphods very quickly.	REPLY