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most recent 13 JUL 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 12 JUL 19 by CybeRose
www.mariannemajerus.com/stock-photo-rosa-sangria--jelrafloki-image00054423.html
This webpage indicates that Sangria = Jelrafloki (Unnamed x Jelvanica)
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 13 JUL 19 by Patricia Routley
All I can pick up from that website is ‘Sangria = Jelrafloki.
I have also seen both of these names in the https://www.rhs.org.uk/Search?query=Jelrafloki website, so have added this rose. It seems to be yet another Sangria and four of them is enough to drive one to drink.
No parentage is listed that I can see - you have quoted (unnamed+ Jelvanica). Do you recall the source?

We have:
1966. Sangria ® Flori MEIestho (Fire King x [Happiness x Independence])
?1977 Jelvanica - possibly bred by Robert Jelly.
<1984 Sangria JELrafloki HT. Red (unknown x Jelvanica)
1986 MEInobroc HT. (Jacqueline x [unknown x Jelvanica])
1992 Sangria 92 HT MEItorpo (Jacqueline x [Meinobroc x Jelvanica])
2000 Sangria. Flori pink. MEIprille (unknown x unknown)
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 13 JUL 19 by CybeRose
Patricia,
I got the parentage for JELrafloki from the patent application. I have added it to the comments for that variety.
Karl
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 13 JUL 19 by Patricia Routley
Thank you. I didn’t see it. But have now added the parentage and adjusted my comment above.
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