Large 5 inch FLAT many petaled crimson red flowers that have great raspberry scent. A prettier and more powerfully scented flower than any David Austin rose I've grown.

It grows 5 foot tall and 7 foot wide here in eastern North Carolina.

It will get blackspot. Fertile as a pollen parent.

This one has a spreading, short growth habit. Blooms are very similar to David Austins. Beautiful bright red with an amazing fragrance. Best blooms in spring and fall.

Can anyone help on this following first rose?
'Fathers Love' MEIabelar. (see the 2015 ref from Swiss rose Garden Nursery - who can't help)
'Father's Love' MEIkarouz. 2000 (see the 2012 ref from Corporate Roses)

Both HT's, both velvety red.
Patricia

Later edit: Corporate Roses advise MEIabelar was a local coding name.