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'Frohsinn ®' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 113-491
most recent 11 OCT 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 11 OCT 18 by Geoffrey
Introduced by Knights Roses, South Australia in 1986 as 'Joyfulness'.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 11 OCT 18 by Patricia Routley
Also by Roy Rumsey, NSW in 1986.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 11 OCT 18 by Geoffrey
Thanks, I will add that to my records :)
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Discussion id : 93-989
most recent 14 JUL 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 14 JUL 16 by Unregistered Guest
Available from - rogue valley roses
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Discussion id : 92-314
most recent 22 APR 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 22 APR 16 by LaurelZ
I have never seen Joyfulness on a rootstock and I wanted to try it, so I got an own roots which has been very disappointing. It arrived with most of the lower leaves removed due to fungal? I am not sure why and in spite of spraying with fungicide weekly proceeded to develop a hideous unknown leaf discoloration. And shows no signs of any new growth or new leaves that may come out. It may be a dead plant already. I can't tell if the plant is alive or not. I will post a photo.
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Discussion id : 23-408
most recent 8 JAN 08 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 7 JAN 08 by Patricia Routley
Re Joyfulness 1984.
1982 or 1984?
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 7 JAN 08 by jedmar
It is 1982. Modern Roses has both dates. Maybe 1984 was when Tantau registered it. Cass, isn't the earlier date more relevant?
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 8 JAN 08 by Cass
This is nice illustration of how excessive data collection does not contribute any real insight. As best I can tell, Tantau introduced the rose in 1982 under the name FROHSINN 82. The rose was subsequently registered with the ARS as 'Tansinnroh'. Modern Roses has given different dates for the registration. Modern Roses 10 and XI say 1984, while Modern Roses 12 says 1985. I'll check with the registrar to see if she knows whether the changed date is a correction or a typo.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 8 JAN 08 by Cass
To answer your question directly, Behcet, I agree that Joyfulness should be noted as 1982 to be consistent.
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