The suggestion that T. Johnson bred Sir John Franklin is pure hypothesis and we may need to re-look at the breeder for that rose. For how Johnson, arriving in Melbourne some time around 1850, managed to sow his seeds, grow the rose to flowering stage, propagate it and get it back to Europe so that Rivers could see it in 1854, is really pushing the boundaries. If there are no thoughts to the contrary, we will delete T. Johnson of Victoria as being the breeder.