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'Wildfire ™' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 91-604
most recent 17 MAY 23 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 20 MAR 16 by Michael Garhart
This rose is gorgeous in person. The color of a campfire.

But it suffers from a curse that some JP roses get. You can see it all the way back to roses like 'Antigua'

See this example of a member's photos of the stems, then look at stem photos of Wildfire.

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.15651

Several other JP HTs also have these reddish, awkward stems, with kind of tilting blooms. Even Artistry has it a little, but the stems are stronger, with strong peduncles.

This trait set, as another member noticed, seems to have a preference for warm climates. Which makes Wildfire really unpredictable from climate to climate. St Patrick, for example grows wonderfully in Arizona, and sulks here in Oregon, until July. So buyer beware, if you live in a climate Wildfire takes a lot of time to mature in.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 17 MAY 23 by goncmg
I have a really good seedling, it’s on here as Night Fever. Futura x Color Magic. And sonofadickens all that J&P blood has given it that tilt!! The blooms tilt. Was just pondering that yesterday and voila, just randomly came across this comment here today!
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Discussion id : 79-661
most recent 7 OCT 16 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 28 JUL 14 by BAM
Hi everyone,

I have not posted in some time and have had some password problems, but hopefully they are all fixed. I tried 'Wildfire' despite the mixed reviews and lack of scent for the color. My experiences were consistent with all the comments. My 'Wildfire' came on 'Dr Huey' rootstock, and the result was a poor growing plant, but the flower color was stunning. 'Dr Huey' is not my favorite rootstock here in southern NJ. we have sandy low organic matter soil with a naturally low pH and HOT and HUMID summers. Most of my roses are own root, a few are on multiflora, and they do well, but 'Dr Huey' is good for a few varieties, ok for a few more, but not as good for many others, so I rooted some cuttings and tried 'Wildfire' on its own roots. 'WILDFIRE' IS A VIGOROUS AND HEAT TOLERANT ROSE ON ITS OWN ROOTS! I root roses over the winter and plant them in May out of six inch pots. the rooted cutting grew past the grafted rose the first summer, so I threw out the grafted plant and kept the rooted cutting. Buy it on its own roots if you can find it, or if you must buy it on 'Dr Huey', plant it someplace temporary, root your cutting, and toss the grafted version. Note, that I have not tried 'Wildfire on 'Multiflora'.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 29 JUL 14 by Margaret Furness
Dr Huey is really for alkaline soils.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 29 JUL 14 by BAM
My understanding is that 'Dr Huey' tolerates alkaline soils and can grow well in alkaline soils, which is not exactly the same thing as requires alkaline soils and does poorly at any pH below 7.0. That would mean 'Dr Huey' was poorly adapted to most of the eastern half of the country. I may have falsely given the impression that I feel that pH is the whole story. In fact, I think soil texture may be more important than the pH issue with 'Dr Huey'.

Like many builders, the one that constructed our house had not sense of horticulture. He needed to change the grade, so he brought in terrible non-draining fill on top of which he spread about six inches of topsoil from another site. the original soil on our lot was a Downer Loamy Sand which was 88-90% sand, 8-10 % silt and 1-2% clay with about 1% organic matter and pH of 4.5 to 5.0. This is a productive fast draining early warming soil when fertility and irrigation are provided.

In prep for the rose garden, the builders topsoil, a Sandy Loam with about 66% sand, 30% silt, and 4% clay was removed and piled. The poor draining fill was removed and disposed of. The resulting hole was 3-4 feet deep. The hole was back filled to within 16 inches of the surface with sand, a readily available commodity in south Jersey, which drained like the Downer Loamy Sand we excavated down to. The piled topsoil was sifted and mixed one third topsoil, one third sand, and one third leaf compost (by volume). Lime was added during mixing to bring the pH to about 6.5. The resulting soil resembled the original Downer Loamy Sand, but 16 inches deep and fast draining with enhanced organic matter and water holding capacity throughout the 16 inch deep topsoil profile. Water is provided by permanent trickle irrigation monitored by tensiometers. I have found it to be an outstanding soil for growing almost anything, but not 'Dr Huey'.

We also have a display rose garden at the front of Rutgers Agricultural Research Farm where the soil is less sandy, classified as a Loam with 2% organic matter. This soil is about 50 % sand, 40% silt and 10 % clay, not a heavy soil by national standards, bu heavy for south Jersey. 'Dr Huey' performs better in the heavier soil at the research farm.

I think soil texture may be more important than pH within reason.

BAM
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 30 JUL 14 by Margaret Furness
Food for thought: thank you!
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 7 JUN 15 by Dianne's Southwest Idaho Rose Garden
Interesting thread. In southwestern Idaho our soil is fairly alkaline and most roses do quite well, either own root or on Dr. Huey or multiflora. My Wildfire is on Dr. Huey and has thrived. It's a spectacular rose, except for lack of scent.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 7 OCT 16 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you for that info, I agree: Dr. Huey does very well in my alkaline & rock hard clay.
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Discussion id : 7-290
most recent 7 JUN 15 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 18 DEC 04 by John Moody

This has not been a good rose for me its' first year in the ground. It is a very small stingy blooming plant with very little foliage to even make an attractive bush. The blooms were very few, small, scentless, and flat in appearance. The color was not the vibrant orange I had expected. I am hoping it picks up quickly in its' second year or out it goes!!


Well, that bush didn't cut it so it indeed got shovel pruned.  However, I got another one as part of one of J&P's collections and am giving it a try as I want that orange color.  Obviously, some folks have had good luck with it from the looks of the pics here on HMF.  I will say that the bareroot bush I got this time already looks better than the one I got the first time.  Maybe I got a dud the first time around--at least I hope so.


John

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Reply #1 of 1 posted 7 JUN 15 by Dianne's Southwest Idaho Rose Garden
I know that this was years and years ago, John. This is such a beautiful rose, it's just a shame that it hasn't worked out. My plant is so absolutely tall, vigorous, and floriforous. Have you tried it own root, or on a different rootstock than the first time?
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Discussion id : 10-605
most recent 9 FEB 14 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 1 DEC 05 by John Moody
I shovel pruned this rose this fall as it just didn't perform. Weak growing bush and very small scentless blooms when it did bloom which wasn't very often. Too bad as the color of the blooms is nice.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 14 JUL 07 by Unregistered Guest
This is one of my best roses, out of approx 150 roses. It blooms continueously, please very strong disease resistance.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 31 MAR 10 by Basheba
I'm kind of glad I wasn't the only one who had problems with the Wildfire rose....I thought it was something I was doing wrong. I am having the same problems with it for a couple of years now. Too bad because when it does bloom, it is very pretty.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 9 FEB 14 by Dianne's Southwest Idaho Rose Garden
Wildfire has consistently been one of my best roses. The bush is tall with healthy foliage, and it blooms generously when our weather isn't over 95, when few roses do bloom. I find it interesting that some people haven't had a good experience. On the whole, I think Wildfire thrives in higher temperatures.
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