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'Ebb Tide ™' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 122-824
most recent 4 AUG HIDE POSTS
Initial post 4 AUG by eihblin
How does this rose compare with Twilight Zone?I have both, in pots, and have to decide where to place them in my garden...
Discussion id : 113-875
most recent 2 NOV 18 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 2 NOV 18 by Plazbo
Nice colour, nice fragrance, nice big clusters of blooms, somewhat fertile, some degree of shade tolerance (have had other plants die in shade, this one survived...but it was never at it's best in shade).

Blooms scorch terribly. Plant is kind of wimpy, it's just never been a vigorous grower for me, never wants to be a full bush covered in leaves, often have some canes looking good while the other half look bare.. Can experience leaf spotting.

The dark purple layer tends to pass on rarely. More often getting pinks and things with more red tones.

If not for the colour (there are alternatives but they also have faults) I probably wouldn't recommend this plant, especially not if you're a low maintenance gardener like myself.
Discussion id : 112-923
most recent 10 SEP 18 SHOW ALL
Initial post 6 SEP 18 by Nola Z5a WI
Heirloom Roses website lists Ebb Tide as zone 5 (-20 to -10 degrees) and 4x4 for size.
Reply #1 of 4 posted 7 SEP 18 by Patricia Routley
Thank you Nola.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 10 SEP 18 by a_carl76
I believe a little caution is in order with this hardiness designation. While I do grow Ebb Tide here in Iowa (Zone 5) it is not winter hardy unless you make efforts to give it protection from the cold. Anything that is exposed in the winter will die back and even a little bit into the protection. Fortunately it is able to bounce back every year and once established will grow into a good size shrub.

I grow several rose varieties in pots that have even less hardiness (a few chinas and teas for example). If I left them exposed they would all be dead come spring. But since I bury the pots under a pile of leaves with a tarp covering, they make it through the winter with no kill. I still would not rate them as Zone 5 varieties.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 10 SEP 18 by Nastarana
Heirloom wants to sell roses, and I think their hardiness designations tend to be a bit optimistic. I am finding that not only is winter protection needed for most 20thC HTs and floribundas, but it is better to buy them grafted and plant with the bud union at least 4" deep.
Reply #4 of 4 posted 10 SEP 18 by Patricia Routley
Thank you a_carl76, and point taken Nastarana. I have changed the 5b back to 6b.
Discussion id : 40-539
most recent 28 APR 17 SHOW ALL
Initial post 16 NOV 09 by John Moody
There are no descendants listed for ET here on HMF, but I read a comment by another rosarian that said that ET was producing good health in it's seedlings. But, I don't remember who it was or where. I am considering it for my floribunda breeding next Spring and would like any information I can get regarding experiences others have had using it in their hybridyzing. Can you tell me about it's pollen fertility, hip setting and seed germination, and it proclivity to pass on good quality to the offspring?
Reply #1 of 7 posted 7 FEB 17 by DLEverette_NC_Zone7b
Twilight Zone is a descendant of Ebb Tide
Reply #2 of 7 posted 8 FEB 17 by Patricia Routley
I don't understand your comment. In 'Ebb Tide's LINEAGE / DESCENDANTS BY GENERATION there are 35 1st generation descendants.
Reply #3 of 7 posted 8 FEB 17 by DLEverette_NC_Zone7b
Apologies. I guess I didn't understand the question
Reply #4 of 7 posted 8 FEB 17 by Jay-Jay
Patricia: Everettedl understood the question quite well, I assume, for...
John Moody wrote in his comment in 2009 (first in line of this thread), that there were no descendants listed for Ebb Tide on HMF.
(Maybe) in the meantime there are listed quite a few on HMF and is his comment history.
Reply #5 of 7 posted 10 FEB 17 by Patricia Routley
My question/comment really was to John.
Reply #6 of 7 posted 25 APR 17 by Plazbo
Your question to John was asked 7 years after he posted...things change in 7 years.
Reply #7 of 7 posted 28 APR 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
John Moody passed away a few years ago. A wonderful & kind man .. still remember his kind & honest posts in Rose forums.
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