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Discussion id : 115-226
most recent 16 FEB 19 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 4 FEB 19 by a_carl76
The parentage currently listed seems to be different from that listed on the patent.

Patent states "It is a seedling grown from seed produced on the hardy climbing Rosa wichuraiana hybrid known as 'Glendale,' this seed was produced by fertilization with pollen of a self seedling from the hardy climbing Rosa wichuraiana hybrid known as 'Golden Climber, Mrs. Arthur Curtiss James.'"

Currently listed as Glenn Dale X Stargold
Patent Suggests Glendale X seedling of Mrs. Arthur Curtiss James and quite possibly Glendale X (Mrs. Arthur Curtiss James x Mrs. Arthur Curtiss James)
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 5 FEB 19 by Patricia Routley
I added more references yesterday. No time now for the next two days to look more closely at this one. I wonder if looking at the application dates for the patents will reveal anything.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 16 FEB 19 by Patricia Routley
I agree with you about the pollen parent of (Mrs. Arthur Curtiss James x Mrs. Arthur Curtiss James) and will change it from 'Stargold' to the above.

I am at a loss to understand why so many of the Brownell roses are quoting different parentages to those of the Patents. But as nobody has contributed other knowledge, I think it is best if we follow what patents say.
The Brownell roses with wobbly parentages are
Stargold 1936
Lily Pons 1939
Pink Princess 1939 -and because of this one, also:
Creeping Everbloom 1939
Lady Lou 1948
Tip Toes 1948
Midnite Sun 1955
Maria Stern 1968
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