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'Alexander Dickson' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 139-264
most recent 15 MAR 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 15 MAR 23 by Cambridgelad
Clearly should be under either George Dickson, Alexander Dickson and Sons or Paul'e, as clearly not Alexander Ii, who was just 16 at the time.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 15 MAR 23 by jedmar
The earliest references state that the rose was bred by Alexander Dickson. We have no roses bred by Alexander Dickson I, who was 72 years old at the time. His grandson Alexander II Dickson entered the business in 1872 when he was 15 years old, so he could have been the breeder, dedicating the rose to his grandfather.
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Discussion id : 129-985
most recent 7 DEC 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 7 DEC 21 by Singularly Beautiful Roses
Another reference. Hibbard, ed., The Floral World and Garden Guide,1873, p. 168. "Alexander Dickson (H.P.) A fine rose, raised by Mr. Dickson of Dublin. It is large, perfect in form, and exceedingly attractive; color rose lilac."
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Discussion id : 129-931
most recent 4 DEC 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 DEC 21 by Singularly Beautiful Roses
The Rose Encyclopedia by T. Geoffrey Henslow states, "In 1850 they [George Dickson & father Alexander I] turned their attention to Roses. The first result of their efforts in this field of research was the Hybrid Perpetual, "Alexander Dickson," raised in 1865, a red variety much esteemed at that period." p. 228.

The article mentions Alexander's [first Alexander] existing interest in hybridizing Ericas prior to beginning his own nursery in 1836.

My research states that George was made a partner in 1853 - perhaps he and his father had already begun experimenting with roses.
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Discussion id : 125-379
most recent 31 JAN 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 30 JAN 21 by Cambridgelad
Now feel certain that rose was bred by G Paul and Sons. Certainly not bred by the Dickson Family as they did not start breeding roses until 1879.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 30 JAN 21 by Patricia Routley
I feel you may be right. 1873 as the bred date for ‘Alexander Dickson’ is 14 years before the first Dickson roses of ‘Earl of Dufferin’, ‘Ethel Brownlow’ and ‘Lady Helen Stewart’ 1887. However I have a few photocopies of Paul’s new introductions pages from 1870 to 1877 and ‘Alexander Dickson’ is not mentioned.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 31 JAN 21 by jedmar
The counter argument is that there are already several attributions to Alexander Dickson. I have added a reference from 1874 which clearly mentions Alexander Dickson as the breeder. It seems he tried his hand, gave the rose his name, wasn't very successful until he got enthusiastic by Bennett's premium seedlings and restarted.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 31 JAN 21 by Patricia Routley
Yes - I got the impression that the rose wasn’t very good when I couldn’t find any reference to it in a search of early materials.
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