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'Madame Sancy de Parabère' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 118-881
most recent 26 OCT HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 26 OCT by bumblekim
My Rose club (The Syracuse Rose Society) was given access to an old garden where some plants were taken to be transferred to our city garden and others were made available to members. I had Mme Sancy as the top of my list, but the club decided the plant would be given to the city garden. I was able to take the cuttings from the top of the plant home. Somehow, the label got lost in the van.

As I stuck the cuttings, I completely forgot I had ones from Mme Sancy and stuck the cuttings under the name "Strawberry Smoothie". The strawberry shaped leaves, and smooth reddish canes were very distinctive. Later, when studying some of the roses in this old garden, I saw the pic from Pat Routley highlighting the foliage and stems. Suddenly I realized my strawberry smoothie was this one!
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Discussion id : 105-779
most recent 1 OCT 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 30 SEP 17 by Massad, Dominique
Mme sancy de parabère (Maiden name Charlotte Lavinie LEFEBVRE DESNOUETTES1815-1887) was a Dame d'honneur of the empress Eugénie , wife of NapoléonIII and not of Joséphine de Bauharnais, wife of Napoleon I
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 30 SEP 17 by jedmar
Thank you, corrected! Still, it seems strange to name the rose after her in 1873, as Empress Eugénie was already exiled from France 3 years ago and the Baroness would have been 58 years old at the time. Isn't this rather late for a Dame d'Honneur? There was also a daughter Marie Ernestine Blanche Lefebvre de Sancy de Parabère, Born August 1, 1836, i.e. of the right age to become Dame d'Honneur in 1855.

Addenda: There is a painting of Franz Xaver Winterhalter of Empress Eugènie and her Dames d'Honneur from 1855. Mme de Sancy de Parabère is not one of them. But in the Armorial général of 1868, Charlotte Lavinie is mentioned as "Dame du Palais de S. M. l'Impératrice Eugénie".
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 1 OCT 17 by Massad, Dominique
The picture of winterhalter shows that "les dames du palais" are not young women but women "of age wall".
Moreover, if the rose was dedicated to Mademoiselle Ernestine, Charlotte's daughter, she would have been called "Mademoiselle (Miss)" and not Madame. To know the reason for the dedication, it would be necessary to have more element on Bonnet, the introducer of the rose.
Perhaps it is related to the paranormal Sancy family or well, would he be a gardener of the castle of Boran, property of the family.

I researched the "Bonnet" which introduced the variety MMe sancy de Parabère.
In 1873, there is only one horticulturalist family bearing this name and installed in Vanves.

Louis Jean Julien BONNET was born in Croissy-sur-Seine (Department of Yvelines) on 21 June 1820 and died in Vanves (Hauts-de-Seine Department) on 23 September 1880.
In his death certificate, he is described as "horticulturist".
He married Elisabeth SAPOULIN in Paris on 1 December 1842.
They had two children:
- Elisa Félicité born on 4 July 1847 in Paris
- Louis Félix born on May 16, 1851 in Vaugirard near Paris, who succeeded his father as a horticulturist.
He seems not to have been married and I did not find the date of his death.

I have not yet found any connection with the Sancy de Parabère family.
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Discussion id : 69-554
most recent 20 JAN 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 20 JAN 13 by A Rose Man
Modern roses XI lists this rose as diploid
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