'Zi Yan Fei Wu' rose References
Book (2021) Page(s) 21. Includes photo(s).
Article (magazine) (2021) Page(s) 159.
‘Kakinada Red’ was named after the port town in India by Girija and Viru Viraraghavan. That is one of the most interesting old roses there. Kakinada Red is used in garland making, it has few prickles, is semi-double to double, is nicely scented with more of a sweet fragrance than a damask scent. It was mentioned in the ‘Mystery Roses of India’ (in Rosa Mundi’s publication, ‘Mystery roses Around the World’) “While the roses we have mentioned so far appear in various historical records, they have not yet been located in present-day India.” Based on their researches, much more important is the rare rose which has existed there for a long time.
Article (magazine) (Sep 2019) Page(s) 23-24. Includes photo(s).
Another heritage rose is again widely used for making garlands. We have given it the study name ‘Kakinada Red’, Kakinada being the name of a port town on the Bay of Bengal coast between Calcutta and Madras (now Chennai). This again is a Bourbon with a very sweet fruity fragrance with hints of apple, quite different from the damask fragrance of ‘Rose Edward’. DNA studies done in Canada have shown that this rose is the same as the one called ‘Pacific’ in Bermuda and ‘Maggie’ in the southern United States, and all of these have close links to a rose called ‘Julius Fabianics de Misefa’, which was bred by the Hungarian rose breeder Rudolf Geschwind in the 1890s. If Kakinada Red is actually a Geschwind rose it is indeed surprising that it seems to have reached India almost immediately after being bred. Its occurrence in Bermuda and the U.S. is equally surprising. Professor and rosarian Wang Guoliang however feels this rose came from China where it is known as ‘Baoxing’.
Newsletter (May 2015) Page(s) 13. Vol 36, No. 3. Includes photo(s).
Peter Holmes, President Bermuda Rose Society.
"Pacific" ("Maggie"). Originally known as the "Cabbage Rose", it is said to have been given to Bermudian sea captain Samuel Conyers Nelmes (1777-1867) by a French sea captain whom he assisted while on a voyage in the Pacific Ocean. Nelmes planted the rose in the garden of his daughter, Mrs. J. C. Lightbourn, at Grasmere, Riddell's Bay. Visiting rosarians have agreed it is probably a Hybrid Perpetual and recently it has been established that the same rose is known as "Maggie" in the United States. Bermuda rosarians have also seen it in Fiji and in several Caribbean islands. In India a similar rose is called "Kakinada Red".
Newsletter (Feb 2015) Page(s) 8.
Tuan Ching. The 2014 Indian Rose Federation Conference.
Among the many rosarians who spoke were.... and Dr. Guoliang Wang from china (on the Chinese rose "Baoxiang", equivalent to "Maggie" in the west)
Book (2015) Page(s) 91.
[From "Roses in Singapore", by Tuan Ching, pp. 90-95]
Up till the early 1990's, it was not uncommon to see huge mature specimens of the local old garden rose covered in bloom. Commonly known as the Kampong, or Village, rose, it is identical to the "found" Bourbon in the USA nicknamed 'Maggie'....and the splitting image of 'Zi Yan Fei Wu', an old classic China OGR.
Book (2015) Page(s) 53, 54(photo). Includes photo(s).
,[From "Miraculous Old Rose 'Baoxiang' in China and 'Kakinada Red' in India", by Prof. Guoliang Wang, pp. 46-54]
...all evidences from various Chinese ancient written records, from ancient Baoxiang-like painting in the Five Dynasties, from rose Baoxiang pattern on the plate made in Yongzhen, and the live old rose 'Baoxiang' collected from northern and southern part of China, comes to support the view that all are the same. The main features of 'Baoxiang' which occurred in different periods in China are also very similar to the rose called variously 'Pacific', 'Maggie', and 'Kakinada Red' outside China. They would have been called 'Baoxiang' in Chinese 1000 years ago...
Fig. 6. Baoxiang in Chengdu, showing distinctive five imbricated petals which look like five hearts in an entire flower.
Book (2015) Page(s) 194, 195(photo). Includes photo(s).
[From Bitter Sweet.... But Loverly Roses in my Garden", by Mariam Ahmad (Merille A. Ghazali), pp. 190-195 on Roses in Malaysia]
...After growing Kampung Magenta for just three months I was getting magnificent blooms ...I was told that she is actually "Maggie", a village rose that is found in many countries.
p. 195: The Beautiful Kampung Magenta...the village damsel....once a forgotten variety but mow the craze of many. Crimson and dark pink. Mild to strong fragrance. Medium to large, semi-double to double, cluster-flowered bloom form. Blooms in flushes throughout the season. Her characteristics are similar to those local roses in many countries.
Article (magazine) (2015) Page(s) 10, 13(photo). Includes photo(s).
The other widespread heritage rose is the Bourbon 'Kakinada Red' ....This again is very well adapted to the south peninsular region and thrives even in the southern part of the eastern coast (Coromandel Coast), which is a very difficult place indeed to grow roses.
Magazine (2014) Includes photo(s).
Old Rose Survivors. Wild and Untamed. (A special edition of Rosa Mundi)
p75 Leo Watermeir. New Orleans.
The "found" rose seen most often in old New Orleans neighborhoods is probably "Maggie". originally named by Texas A & M University's Dr. Bill Welch for a rose he found growing in northeastern Louisiana. It's a healthy, repeat bloomer with very fragrant, fully double, cerise-pink flowers. Thought possibly to be a China/Bourbon mix, it can be grown as a shrub or small climber. Photo.
p88 Photo "Maggie" (photo by Malcolm Manners)
p88 Photo "Kakinada Red" (photo by Viru Viraraghavan)
p89 Malcolm M. Manners. Solving Historic Rose Puzzles at Florida Southern College.
In 2011-2012, student Ashley Wilson worked on the problem of the rose we grow as "Maggie". Apparently the same rose is grown in Bermuda as "Pacific". In India as "Kakinada Red", and it is thought that the rose may actually be Geschwind's 'Eugene E. Marlitt'. While we acquired a preserved sample from Sangerhausen, unfortunately the 'Eugene E. Marlitt' DNA did not purify well, so could not be included in the study - a great disappointment! But comparison of the U.S.'s "Maggie". Bermuda's "Pacific", and India's "Kakinada Red" showed them all to be the same rose. We still hope to work with better documented 'Eugene E. Marlitt' tissue soon, for further comparison.