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'Twice in a Blue Moon' rose Reviews & Comments
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Twice in a Blue Moon is still blooming after an extended period of 110 degree days (plus heat index). The blooms are measuring 3-4 inches now, rather than the 6-7 inches that they measured this spring though, and sadly not as much fragrance. My own-root plants require several hard prunings a season to keep the size to a manageable 4-5 feet in southern Z8.
The lavender blooms don't seem to brown on the edges or turn white or pink. This rose was also one of the first to bloom after a 5 F ice storm.
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Does anybody know who is selling this rose own-root? Heirloom is no longer selling it, thanks!
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To be honest, I think normal ‘Blue Moon’ (TANnacht) is just as good, in the U.K.
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Oh, that's good to hear, thank you! Now off to track that one down too.
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Palatine offers 'Blue Moon', grafted onto multiflora.
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From the pictures, one might almost think Evers reissued 'Blue Moon'.
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I hope that they have the same fragrance. "Twice" to my nose is just fantastic! I'm not sure that I would be so excited about them if it weren't for that but they waft in the vase as well as being wonderful dried. Mine are all own-root in sandy soil in case that makes a difference, thanks!
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Then why not grow them both! ;-) I think ‘Blue Moon’ has a more damask rose fragrance whilst ‘Twice in a Blue Moon’ has more citrus tones.
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That's the plan, thank you! And thanks for the descriptions of the differences in their fragrances. Still trying to see if I can find Blue Moon own-root though if I can.
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In the U.S.A. you seem to have his mania for ungrafted roses. Almost every rose planted in the U.K. is grafted, usually on laxa stock, and we grow wonderful roses.
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I can't speak for anybody else, but own-root grows great here. Of the small percentage that were grafted, the grafts must have failed because some turned into two different roses within weeks of spring planting! But depending upon the area, I think that lots of US gardeners prefer grafted so I might be the only one with the mania!
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#11 of 23 posted
11 SEP 17 by
 Nastarana
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Andrew from Dolton, you have clearly not made the acquaintance of Dr. Phooey. As for R. multiflora, I had to remove three quite rare Portland roses because they were being taken over by the multiflora, and I have only so far been able to replace one. The objection many of us have to the practice of budding is the lack of discrimination in both choice of rootstock--whatever is easy and convenient for the supplier seems to be the rule--and lack of attention to geography. In CA, rootstocks are mostly not needed, certainly not for either HTs or floribundas. IMHO, rootstocks are not needed for Portlands and seriously compromise the growth habit of albas, which grow perfectly well on their own roots, as do rugosas. I do prefer HTs and floribundas on rootstock, but zone 5 is marginal at best for those groups.
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Thank you Nastarana and Lavenderlace,
That’s interesting what you say about Alba roses, I have ‘Alba Maxima’ on its own roots and it is far more vigorous than ‘Maiden’s Blush’ which is grafted. My ‘Lady Portland’ grows very vigorously on laxa sock. I’ve never seen ‘Dr Huey’ in the U.K. I want to buy this rose as I am interested in historic roses but it is difficult to find here. I plant all my roses very deeply so eventually they all end growing on their own roots. I am surprised that if roses grew better on their own roots in the U.K. there would be more of a Champaign for doing so. I have a 100 or so roses and none of the rootstocks sucker.
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I would never plant another 'Alba Maxima' (or is it R. Alba semi-plena?) again on its own roots because of the suckering.
(Luurve the idea of roses wearing rootstock socks).
".....none of the rootstocks sucker." Perhaps that may be because the English nurserymen are more diligent at removing the eyes (dormant buds).
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‘Alba Maxima’ does sucker a bit but they are easy enough to pull out. I always thought that laxa rootstocks were raised from seed. Other roses I grow that sucker are, ‘The Bishop’, Camïeux’, virginiana, gallica ‘Versicolor’, centifolia ‘Muscosa’ and various pimpinellifolias, but the suckers are all of themselves not rootstocks.
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I don't plant any spring-flowering rose (other than ramblers), any rugosa or rugosa hybrid or any species rose on its own roots. Takes years to get rid of them once they start travelling.
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Oh yes, rugosas can be a nightmare to get rid of! Soil and climate play an important factor too. Many peoples’ roses in warm countries are more vigorous than they are in mine. My grandmother grew roses on very porous chalky soil and certain types suckered all over the place, on my heavy loam they only do so moderately. But it gives me material to pot up and grow on to sell for charity.
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#17 of 23 posted
12 SEP 17 by
Nastarana
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I grow albas as a variegated hedge, and cat proof habitat for small birds and amphibians, not as specimens, so I mostly don't mind the suckering. My soil is heavy loam overlying a layer of yellow clay, which seems to somewhat inhibit suckering.
In Australia where so much of the wildlife is lethal, I suppose the semi-wild hedges I like would not be a good idea?
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Oh absolutely. Crocodiles lurking in your rose bushes are real nuisance.
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Ok, serious answer: semi-wild hedges are fine over here, for the same reason you use them over there. Great habitat for small critters of various persuasions.
It often makes sense to use native plants, because they are adapted for the area and the local critters are adapted for the plants, but exotic species of plant are fine too if they are chosen sensibly.
And the dangerous wildlife isn't a big deal in practice. You just have to be aware of your surroundings. Snakes, for example, have no interest in picking a fight with humans. They just want to be left alone. As long as you leave them alone, no problem.
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To put it in perspective: we lose about one person a year each to snakes, sharks and crocodiles. And about 3,000 from motor vehicle accidents.
Haven't seen any sharks among my roses.
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Fortunately I haven't seen any motor vehicles among my roses either. Those things are seriously dangerous.
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In the U.K. more people die from bee sings than snake bites.
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Lovely color, clean foliage, and divine scent in my no-spray garden.
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Available from - Wisconsin Roses
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