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'Madame Cunisset-Carnot' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 122-079
most recent 10 JUN 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 JUN 20 by kai-eric
carnot(madame carnot of antique emporium) doesn't match madame cunisset carnot as presumed by some of us. datasheet at the official website of the rosery of val-de-marne (france) clearly show another rose.
https://collections-roseraie.valdemarne.fr/index.php?metier=varietes&action=fiche&id=1911
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 10 JUN 20 by Patricia Routley
Could madame carnot of antique emporium be ‘Mademoiselle Franziska Kruger’?
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 10 JUN 20 by kai-eric
certainly not as buds are slender and blossoms hardly filled colour being a consistent vieux-rose without any variation. for better understanding i have uploaded some new pictures of the most interesting details.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 10 JUN 20 by Patricia Routley
Thank you Kai-eric. It was the photo in Carnot (tea, Laffay, 1825) that made me think of ‘Mademoiselle Franziska Kruger’.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 10 JUN 20 by kai-eric
i feel my plant much closer to the references (bouton très allongé/journal des roses) of mme cunisset carnot than the plant at l'hay pictured by amiroses.
on the other hand,the starry outline of its blooms makes me think of another variety: mme emilie charrin with its frizzy blossoms, the proliferation often seen on my plant being obviously caracteristic of that variety. i guess that a mixup has happened.
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Discussion id : 86-544
most recent 13 JUL 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 13 JUL 15 by kai-eric
Journal des Roses 1899/11/01, p.169:

Madame Cunisset-Carnot (hybride de thé). - Arbuste vigoureux, fleur moyenne, bouton très allongé, solitaire,coloris rose oeillet saumoné; bonne pour fleurs coupées.
Grande médaille dàrgent.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 13 JUL 15 by Patricia Routley
Thank you kai-eric. Reference added and Mme. Cussinet-Carnot now made a "hidden" name.
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Discussion id : 86-423
most recent 6 JUL 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 JUL 15 by kai-eric
does anyone have more detailled informations about madame cussinet-carnot? pictures of leaves would be helpful for comparing with other members of the 'carnot complex'.
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