"Martha Gonzales, Cl." rose reviews and comments

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"Martha Gonzales, Cl." rose Reviews & Comments

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Discussion id : 166-773 most recent 13 APR 24 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 13 APR 24 by HMF supporting member

brittie

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Discussion id : 85-359 most recent 2 JUN 15 SHOW ALL

Initial post 27 MAY 15 by amaryllidaceous

We have a climbing sport of Martha Gonzalez called "Speedy Gonzalez"--is this a synonym for Cl MG? Or a different sport? I had the vague impression that it was introduced by or somehow associated with Greg Grant.	REPLY

Reply #1 of 1 posted 2 JUN 15 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

I haven't seen any info on "Speedy Gonzales". You have used double quotes, which are normally used internationally to indicate a foundling rose. Where did your rose come from? Is it a foundling? You might like to check out 'Fabvier Cl.', "Martha Gonzales Cl." and "Old Gay Hill Red Climber" for background knowledge.	REPLY

Discussion id : 85-521 most recent 1 JUN 15 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 1 JUN 15 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

Given that "Martha Gonzales" has been identified as 'Fabvier', should the climbing version "Martha Gonzales Cl." (in HelpMefind as 'Martha Gonzales Cl.') be shown as 'Fabvier Cl.'? And is "Old Gay Hill Red China", a taller growth form sport of 'Fabvier', the same rose as "Martha Gonzales Cl."?	REPLY