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'Marie d'Orléans' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 62-900
most recent 23 MAR 12 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 21 MAR 12 by Sammy's Garden
Marie d'Orleans. I wanted to find information about this rose, and found nothing here. I tried everything in the spelling except to delete a space between the "d", the apostrophe, and the "O". I even tried to patiently go through the alphabet, but did not even consider that the last name began with a "d'" instead of an "O".

Finally I gave up on HMF and went to google to look for another source. I typed "Marie d' Orleans", and google brought me here. Google ignored the space I had between the apostrophe and the "O". Perhaps HMF should put that type of spelling as an option that would take a person from the "search" to the rose.

Whatever language Marie is, I do not consider a last name to begin with a "d" and apostrohpe, then a capital "O".

I sure hope this makes sense.
Sammy
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 22 MAR 12 by Patricia Routley
Sammy, Don't ever give up on HelpMeFind. 99.9999 per cent of the time this site will have what you are seeking. I searched for Orleans, not with 'Best Matches', or 'Begins With', but with 'Contains' and found 'Marie d'Orleans' within one minute.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 22 MAR 12 by Sammy's Garden
Thank you, Patricia. I never thought of doing that.
Sammy
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 23 MAR 12 by jedmar
I tried and both Marie dOrleans and Marie d'Orleans worked, with "Begins with", "Best matches" and "Contains". Could it be a browser issue?
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 23 MAR 12 by HMF Admin
You make an interesting point. Even thought the various references we cite use "Marie d'Orleans" we should probably also record it as "Marie d' Orleans" (with a space).
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 23 MAR 12 by Sammy's Garden
I never considered the last name spelled d'Orleans. In my world of only English and Spanish, the capitalized last name would be Orleans. d'Orleans is new to me. Unfortunately I did not purchase the rose in the past because I could not find a listing here. I was always too busy to pursue the name, and just purchased another.

It is a beautiful rose, and I am glad you had it listed.

I think it would be a good idea to accept the spelling of the capital O for the last name.

Sammy
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Discussion id : 22-263
most recent 22 MAY 09 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 25 OCT 07 by anonymous-17965
Climbing growth habit? No hint of climbing potential here.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 26 OCT 07 by jedmar
That is what one of the references claims. In this case, it would mean that 'Marie d'Orléans' at Sangerhausen in Germany can climb. We will check with someone who knows that specific rose.

The description provides a picture of the rose as it is historically known. It can happen that the variety in commerce does not comply with this. This is usually a case for further investigation.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 26 OCT 07 by Cass
The rose in commerce in the USA, known for the quilling of the petals in the heat of summer and a fine copper Tea, does not climb. I suggest preserving the Reference with the description of "climbing," while describing the plant as growing up to 5 or 6 feet. The largest I've seen is a robust found plant in the Historic Rose Garden of the Sacramento Old City Cemetery in California.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 27 OCT 07 by jedmar
The true identity of the current 'Marie d'Orléans' at Sangerhausen seems questionable. Also 'Marie d'Orléans' from Guillot seems to be very similar to 'Souvenir d'Auguste Legros' from Loubert. Another case for a transatlantic comparison! We will try to find an original description by Nabonnand.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 22 MAY 09 by kai-eric
marie d'orléans and souvenir d'auguste legros from loubert seem to be the same variety. same blossoms, sharp an slender prickles, mostly 3 leaflets of rounded eliptical shape with pronounced short tip are caracteristic.
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