I dunno what to think. Heirlooms confuses me even when I'm there at the place, lol. I usually end up helping other customers too, because everything is everywhere. They always have nice rose varieties and awesome display gardens though, which I think is why they do so well. Otherwise, I dont think many would bother with their chaotic naming and classification of roses. By the way, the people are nice there as well. So, dont get me wrong. I love their business -- I just wish they had more order.