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'Monsieur Tillier' rose References
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Magazine (2021) Page(s) 32. Vol 43, No. 4.
Lynne Chapman and Billy West. A Close Look at Tea Roses
But what of the Tea rose Monsieur Tillier? Is it correctly named or should it be called Archiduc Joseph, a Tea released a year later? A rose was distributed from the UK in the 1970s under the name Archiduc Joseph but at the same time it was known and grown in the USA, in Australia and in New Zealand under the name Monsieur Tillier. We lean towards Monsieur Tillier as the correct name mainly because of the existence of these old, named plants.
But both roses were released within a year of each other and had very similar descriptions, even looked very similar - so we are open to discussion on this one ... To add to the mix, Monsieur Tillier aka Archiduc Joseph is also often confused with another two roses, Général Schablikine and Madame Lambard. Monsieur Tillier, Australia’s favourite Tea rose, is in a class of its own, beautiful, vigorous and free-flowering, with a strong fragrance of both tea and fruit.
Magazine (2019) Page(s) 49. Vol 41, No. 1.
Margaret Furness. Tea, Noisette and China Mislabels in Australia.
M. Tillier is usually correct, but Marie Nabonnand may still be sold under that name.
.....Archiduc Joseph is the same as M. Tillier.
Magazine (2014) Page(s) 37. Vol 36, No. 3. Includes photo(s).
Billy West. Two Roses, Three Names. Musical Chairs with Roses.
.....Those new to Heritage roses are sure to come across the 'Monsieur Tillier' x 'Archiduc Joseph' debate sooner or later....The smooth pedicels of 'Monsieur Tiller' are straighter...
Book (2008) Page(s) 146.
During the 1980s, in an effort to verify the identity of the Australian ‘Monsieur Tillier’ the Rumseys imported ‘Archiduc Joseph’ from the Europa Rosarium Sangerhausen, Germany, and ‘Monsieur Tillier’ from an American source. At the same time, Ross Roses brought in ‘Archiduc Joseph’ from England, the three plants were swapped and also shared with David Ruston. After years of growth and comparison the imported roses have been found to be variable but undoubtably the same (Ross 1997; Ruston 1997a). In New Zealand, Jennifer Howard had a similar experience when she imported ‘Archiduc Joseph’ from England and found it to be identical to the ‘Monsieur Tillier’ that had been growing in New Zealand for many years (Howard 1986). In the United States this rose is still sold as ‘Monsieur Tillier’ and because there is a continuous history in Australia and New Zealand we have decided to use this name.
Book (Sep 1993) Page(s) 292. Includes photo(s).
Monsieur Tillier Tea. Pierre Bernaix 1891. Description... some claim that is is actually Nabonnand's 'Archiduc Joseph'... a blend of warm colors, but the overall impression is of coral-pink, softly touched with magenta. Parentage unknown.
Book (Apr 1993) Page(s) 388.
Mons. Tillier Tea, rosy flesh, shaded salmon-rose and purple-rose, 1891, Bernaix, A. Description.
Book (Feb 1993) Page(s) 114. Includes photo(s).
Book (1993) Page(s) 108. Includes photo(s).
A Tea with blood-red flowers with purple markings. Hardy for a Tea Rose. Bernaix (France) 1891. Repeats. Height: 3 1/2 ft. Little scent.
Book (Jun 1992) Page(s) 53.
Monsieur Tillier Tea. Bernaix, 1891. Affiliated with 'Safrano à Fleurs Rouges'. [Author cites information from different sources. The Journal des Roses identifies Mons Tillier as the former head of the National School of Horticulture in Versailles... "The bookstore Octave Doin is going to publish a charming work by Mons L. Tillier, the title of which is L'Année Horticole. It's a review of the novelties released to commerce in 1892."]
Book (1988) Page(s) 48.
Monsieur Tillier Tea, brick-red
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