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'SHPXGIV' rose Reviews & Comments
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27 DEC 14 by
 Michael Garhart
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I am hoping it takes off this year. Maybe it hates the clay soil? :[ SP grows like a weed here.
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27 DEC 14 by
Robert Neil Rippetoe
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Michael, is your SP budded?
Mine grows beautifully own-root here but I remember I rooted 'Givenchy' here some years ago and it did not flourish as the budded plants do.
This seedling may take after the pollen parent in that regard? I remember it seemed to do ok in potting soil. Of course our growing season is much longer.
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#2 of 2 posted
18 MAY 15 by
Michael Garhart
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I never actually owned SP. It is everywhere in parks and in rosarian gardens here. Edmunds introduced it to the area, and it took off like wildfire.
This seedling bloomed again. I will put it on more vigorous roses. The color is wonderful.
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12 OCT 12 by
Jay-Jay
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Sheila's Perfume forms hips with very big "nuts" (Ø 4-5 mm), but they did not germinate for me until now...
but decayed. Beautifull rose Robert!
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12 OCT 12 by
Robert Neil Rippetoe
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Jay Jay, you might try it again. 'Sheila's Perfume' was an easy seed parent for me in my climate.
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#2 of 2 posted
12 OCT 12 by
Jay-Jay
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I'll try, thank you Robert.
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9 OCT 12 by
Michael Garhart
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Photo added. It is beginning to take off.
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24 FEB 11 by
Michael Garhart
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It wintered fine in Oregon -- 1 mile near the Columbia River even! Sometimes roses with southern-born lineage like this one tend to die-back from wet soil + random cold snaps, but it looks fine.
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24 FEB 11 by
Robert Neil Rippetoe
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That's great news Michael. I'm pleased to say from the few experiments I made it appears to be a decent seed parent.
I'd love to see photos of blossoms in your climate.
It would be interesting to see what it looks like budded.
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#2 of 7 posted
24 FEB 11 by
Michael Garhart
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Both seedlings have parents that have what I call the "hot house curse", which is that they sit in homeostasis in the spring of cool climates, then they burst when summer hits. Examples include St Patrick, Brass Band, Just Joey, Gingersnap, Brandy, Angel Face etc. Some of them also hate wet winter soils. The two seedlings seem to have avoided this, but I want to outcross them to see if I can retain the unique traits, then backcross them to something suitable. Also, I want aim at try for HT's that have a higher branching density. Belle Epoque has awesome architecture in the PNW, come to think of it. Its major flaw is obviously the fade and the loose necks, lol. I have chosen what I think are the 10 best Buck roses to aim towards this goal. We'll see if its worthwhile x_X Who knows.
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24 FEB 11 by
Robert Neil Rippetoe
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I agree exploring the Bucks might be a way to go.
'Winter Sunset', blows very quickly in a climate like mine. No doubt it's much better where you are. I'll be curious to hear how it goes.
Come to think of it I probably should have sent this one as well.
http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.62382&tab=1
It isn't all that great but it's vigorous and has some interesting genetics that include Bucks.
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#4 of 7 posted
24 FEB 11 by
Michael Garhart
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Winter Sunset blows fast in the summer here. Prairie Sunrise doesnt, but I'm told that it mildews elsewhere. Almost all of the Buck roses are fleeting though, which is why I want to see if any of them work well with combining.
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#5 of 7 posted
25 FEB 11 by
Michael Garhart
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Oh yeah, I ordered Mary Susan this year. I'm wondering if it has better stay-power than previous Buck roses.
One of the nice things about Baby Love is that the blooms resist water. I have a beautiful white mini out of Solitaire x Baby Love that is completely water resistant. Thats pretty rare for white. I have Hawkeye Belle, one of the early Bucks that seems to be an attempt at a hardy HT. Its kind of like Garden Party on a somewhat Carefree Beauty-like plant. Its blooms basically melt in Oregon, but that seems pretty common for most roses bred out of Queen Elizabeth. I grew Rose Parade one year. Every bloom melted at the hint of humidity. It was soon "recycled" lol.
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#6 of 7 posted
25 FEB 11 by
Robert Neil Rippetoe
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'Prairie Sunrise' is a good one. It can mildew but isn't as bad as some. Fertile as seed parent. Germimnation isn't great but adequate for my needs.
'Hawkeye Belle' is one of my favorites but it seems to prefer life where conditions are less extreme. It was beautiful in Kim Rupert's garden. Fertile as seed parent but I didn't keep it long enough to breed anything worth carrying forward.
I don't know a thing about 'Mary Susan'.
'Rose Parade' was never a favorite of mine.
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#7 of 7 posted
25 FEB 11 by
Michael Garhart
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Almost no one knows about the ten new Buck intros. There were 10 and I could not try them all so I took a gamble on Mary Susan. My next choice was like Butterfly Magic or some such name. I guess the only way to find out is to dive in =/
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