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'Phyllis Bide' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 103-492
most recent 29 JUL 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 27 JUL 17 by Andrew from Dolton
I planted this rose in 2013, it never flourished, declining every year. It hated growing in my soil. This spring, well into April I moved it to a client's garden in the south of the county near the sea. The soil here is slightly clay, alkaline and as red as Mars. It loves this and has made new strong shoots that will be flowering soon, better than it ever did with me.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 29 JUL 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you Andrew for your honest experience. I will share the same with own-root roses that HATE my alkaline clay: Nahema. Still don't know what works with own-root Nahema. Its parent Heritage gives clay folks a hard time, but Heritage does well for loamy & acidic rain region.
Discussion id : 78-477
most recent 24 MAY 14 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 24 MAY 14 by CybeRose
Gardeners Chronicle & New Horticulturist - Page 451 (1933)
Phyllis Bide has been growing here on a trellis for a few years and had until this season made little impression. In fact, I was beginning to think of discarding it. As if aware of its condemnation it aroused itself and has shown what it can be like at its best. It must be confessed that it is not growing in a particularly sunny situation, so probably the exceptional summer and autumn we have just experienced may account for its recent fine display of bloom; or this may partly be due to it becoming more thoroughly established.

Rose Phyllis Bide was brought out ten years ago by Messrs. S. Bide and Sons, and described as a climbing Polyantha. Its exact parentage, I think, was not divulged. It was awarded a Certificate of Merit by the National Rose Society at the autumn show of 1923. Although generally listed by Rose-growing firms, it has not caught on particularly well. Perhaps its quiet colouring is against it. Otherwise it has a merit almost its own in being a perpetual-flowering rambler of moderate dimensions. In small gardens with restricted room for trellis Roses the usual Wichuraiana ramblers are so rampant as to require much attention to keep them within bounds, besides which they only flower once. Phyllis Bide, on the other hand, is quite manageable, with an ever-blooming habit like the dwarf Polyanthas. We could well do with additional varieties of this climbing class with more pronounced colouring and, if possible, with fragrance, for Phyllis Bide is scentless, although in this respect it is not worse than most of the Wichuraiana ramblers.

Its colouring is a little difficult to describe. Perhaps pale gold, edged with carmine-pink suits it best. A good impression of this Rose is given by the coloured illustration in the Rose Annual of 1924. It is the gold in the bloom that gives it distinction. This is apt to be fleeting, disappearing as the flower ages. This season, however, the gold has been deeper and more lasting. The flowers, borne in loose sprays, could with advantage be more double, but there is really little fault here. The sprays can be arranged to look charming for indoor decoration and they last well in water. The foliage is just on the sparse side. In my experience it is mildew-proof.

Phyllis Bide is hence given here a new lease of life. Even at the end of November respectable sprays of bloom were still obtainable, in spite of a few frosty nights.
Discussion id : 41-432
most recent 30 DEC 09 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 30 DEC 09 by Simon Voorwinde
It says there is some question about the parentage of 'Phyllis Bide'. On RHA it is listed as a confirmed diploid (here: 'Perle d'Or' is a diploid and 'Gloire de Dijon' is listed as being tetraploid. This would mean that 'Phyllis Bide' would most likely be triploid if 'Glorie de Dijon' was its pollen parent. 'William Allen Richardson' is listed as a diploid so wouldn't this make it more likely to be 'Phyllis Bide's' pollen parent than 'Gloire de Dijon'???
Discussion id : 30-904
most recent 12 OCT 08 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 12 OCT 08 by Margaret Furness
'Phyllis Bide' goes spotty and fades in hot sunshine, but if you cut sprays and bring them inside before the buds open, it's lovely for a long time. If you live in an area of very hot summers, you could try planting it in afternoon shade, but I think 'Ghislaine de Feligonde' is a better option.
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