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    most recent 19 JUN 17  
    RosePrimrose Queen (china, Lippiatt, 1911)
    Initial post 19 JUN 17 by Patricia Routley
    1915 W. E. Lippiattt
    p23. Primrose Queen (Lippiatt, 1911) China Tea. A strong and rapid growing [illegible] particularly valuable for early and late flowering, blooming right into Winter. A pale monthly rose, colour bright primrose yellow throughout; flowers [illegible] and cup-shaped, foliage large and strong for its class; very valuable for [illegible]..ting.
    most recent 15 SEP 12  
    RosePrimrose Queen (china, Lippiatt, 1911)
    Initial post 13 SEP 12 by Max. E
    Is this rose extinct?
    Reply #1 posted 13 SEP 12 by Patricia Routley
    I've added the only references I can find. It could still be out there, but.......
    Reply #2 posted 14 SEP 12 by Margaret Furness
    if you click on gardens at the head of its page, two are listed. Whether that's current I don't know.
    Reply #3 posted 14 SEP 12 by Patricia Routley
    Thanks Margaret. Cliff has now closed his nursery so that leaves the one U.S. source.
    (and I note from previous comments on 'Primrose Queen' that Cliff didn't believe his rose was the china, but a hybrid tea.)

    I can't help wondering about the Australian foundling "Jane Cranston" which was similar to 'Rival de Paestum'.
    Reply #4 posted 15 SEP 12 by Margaret Furness
    Thank you. I see the current journal hasn't reached you yet- there are a couple of photos of "Jane Cranston" in it. Very like Isabella Sprunt.
    most recent 21 NOV 11  
    RosePrimrose Queen (china, Lippiatt, 1911)
    Initial post 20 NOV 11 by nsdjohn
    This Primrose Queen is supposed to be a China rose, which is a sport of Arethusa. I believe that this picture is of a hybrid tea test rose from J&P that was never introduced. The photo is obviously not a China.
    Reply #1 posted 20 NOV 11 by jedmar
    Yes it seems so. We have moved the photo to the HT.
    Reply #2 posted 21 NOV 11 by Tessie
    You might want to talk to Cliff Orent about this. He had a Primrose Queen in his collection (Morongo Valley, CA). I asked Cliff about it earlier this year, during one of my visits, because I was curious if it was really a sport of Arethusa (as I noted that was how it appeared on HMF, with a picture of a flower). He didn't believe it was the same rose. His was a hybrid tea obtained from Johnny Becnel (sp?), and likely bred by Mr. Becnel. I think I made some notes of the conversation and will look for them.

    Melissa