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Discussion id : 69-563
most recent 9 JUN 14 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 21 JAN 13 by goncmg
In 2013 now the class GRANDIFLORA seems to have some clout----in the past 5 or 8 years a LOT of Grandifloras have appeared but this class has always been nebulously defined in the US and not even acknowleged anywhere else and in the 60's, 70's, and 80's seemed to be an "ugly step child" monniker and once assigned the variety left the gate as an underdog which is ironic since in the US the class was created for the legendary and esteemed Queen ELizabeth..............................PROMINENT, LOVE and SONIA, all from the 70's, all correlate: I am VERY LATE to this thread but no, PROMINENT IS NOT TALL. It is short, it is stout, it is thorny, it has amazing color, it NEVER sends up sprays---------it (as do Sonia and Love) CLUSTERS LESS THAN MOST HYBRID TEAS! Absolutely no idea how this one got assigned its class...........how 9 foot tall Little Darling which also has smallish blooms one to a stem but is 3 times the size got assigned FL.............how roses such as Sterling Silver/Granada/Fragrant Cloud/First Prize/Neptune which CLUSTERRRRRRRR got assigned HT and even how Cherry-Vanilla and Buccaneer got assigned GR when they actually should be LcL like Joseph's Coat and Golden Showers (or vice versa?)..................
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 21 JAN 13 by Nastarana
I sometimes think Kordes sacrificed excellence of color for the famous vigor and disease resistance of its roses, but this one in pix has a very good color, a kind of glowing orange/red with is it purple or brown? overtones.

ONTOH the roses of Matias Tantau, Jr., which I love for their amazing and indescribable colors, can be challenging to grow in some climates, or so I am finding.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 26 JAN 13 by goncmg
Hi Nastarana! Prominent is actually brilliant, unfading, bright orange with starch-hard petal substance. At least in my opinion. Not much of a shading to the bloom and I do not currently grow it but have decided it will be added this spring as I love orange..............Kordes' best known roses may seem to lack in "color" but there have been some really "fun" ones in the past, not the least of which is that difficult beauty from 1957, Kordes Perfecta! Neue Review from the 70's is another..............Color Wonder, 1964, is another "fun" one and has been a parent or grandparent of many..................but I DO agree with you: when I think of KORDES I think of basic pink or basic red somehow, the same way I think of SALMON when I think of McGredy. ONE thing about KORDES is THORNS! OMG! Think about it.........!!!!!............if it came from that house or has that house up in its ancestry, wow...........that is a thorny rose! Prominent included for sure!
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 30 MAY 14 by Michael Garhart
A huge majority of Kordes roses have Tropicana or R. rugosa in them, and the thorns were never bred out of them. I am guessing it is because they were more concerned with hardiness that thorns.

Prominent does breed orange that blues up. I had a lot of discarded seedlings from it. Most Zorina hybrids do this, which is where a lot of russets come from.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 9 JUN 14 by Michael Garhart
In my opinion, the American classification system is really, really bad, and it is from an antiquated point of view. By that system, most Buck roses are hybrid teas, and that thought could go on forever.

I like the UK system best. Its so very simple and easy. But its not very passionate and historic, I guess.

Bush + blooms over so many inches = large-flowered bush rose. Easy, lol.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 9 JUN 14 by goncmg
Michael, thanks for all the insight! I agree the US classifications are kind of odd. Plus the hybridizer "decides" anyway! I remember in the mid-70's a lot of HT's that cluster were reclassified as GR---Sterling Silver, Polynesian Sunset, Mexicana, Granada!!! That didn't last too long! And yes, Prominent and Love and actually Arizona, too--GR's that really don't cluster? Small HT's?? The European system is a lot more straighforward!
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Discussion id : 37-810
most recent 5 OCT 12 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 8 JUL 09 by John Moody
I am disappointed by the small size of the bush and the blooms on my four year old Prominent bush.
The bush has yet to get over 2' tall at it's highest and I haven't seen a bloom over about 3" in diameter. Prominent's blooms look more the size of a small floribunda or a large mini-flora. They do have wonderful bright orange color and little fragrance if any. Being a grandiflora, I planted it in the middle row of a three row bed and the darned thing is too small to be seen. So, it will have to be dug up and there's the question. Do I transplant it to a different spot or do I just trash it and put in a larger bush that can be seen. I have quite a large spot right there as I SP's the two roses sitting beside it this year for underperforming and haven't replaced them yet. This spot could use two fairly large bushes in it to fill the gap once Prominent will probably be gone.
Are your blooms that small in your garden?? What zone are you located in??
I am in zone 5b/6a NOrthwest Missouri 50 miles north of Kansas City.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 OCT 12 by mtspace
It's impossible to know the answer because it depends a lot on what you wish to see in that spot based on your personal preferences, geographical constraints, and what is already planted. I must say that I am mildly impressed that a bright red grandiflora from that age does well enough in the midwest to consider leaving it in place. By comparison, Tropicana - a rose of the same vintage, breeder, and color range - only just hung on in a park in NJ with a full time staff of gardeners weeding, fertilizing, mulching, and spraying it along with about 200 better cultivars. Sadly, there's not a lot to choose from in that color range. There is Kordes' Brilliant. But it's probably far too big.
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