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Discussion id : 113-769
most recent 29 OCT 18 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 28 OCT 18 by thebig-bear
How do I solve a problem like Safrano?

It has never been the same since I moved it out of the comfort of the porch (in this case more like a small conservatory with a solid roof). I moved it outside one summer, as I was supposed to do, and yet it never really picked up, although it did do much better when I brought it back indoors - too well, it got quite big, but not much bloom, and aphids had come in with it and thought it was Christmas, and I had an infestation of titanic proportions to deal with. So that didn't really work too well either! It has been outside again this year since April/May, and after a slight prune to get it in order, it has pretty much sulked all season. Plus the leaves went very small and crinkled in places, and it seemed to start sprouting shoots from the stems like a potato with eyes! Now I don't know what to do with it. Plant it outside for good, or keep it in a pot? Any suggestions welcome.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 28 OCT 18 by Marlorena
I would suggest, if you have a sunny sheltered spot in your garden, and such favoured places are usually already taken, but if so then plant it, leave it, forget about it, and I think after 2 or 3 years you'll see it start to become something... these types of roses cannot be rushed in our cool Spring climate and I think patience is rewarded... they also seem to thrive on neglect and hope we will turn the other way and not notice how miserable they look in the early years..
... however I don't grow it, but I've had a few similar that I now regret I didn't give more time to... but my garden is small and cannot accommodate tricky customers like these.. best of luck...
Reply #2 of 2 posted 29 OCT 18 by thebig-bear
Thanks Marlorena, I think thats what I will probably do - I have a spot where it could go, but it will have to sink or swim. Its a lovely rose, but with space at a premium now in our garden, it will have to survive without a lot of effort being applied, or else!
Discussion id : 105-455
most recent 10 SEP 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 10 SEP 17 by Give me caffeine
Despite this rose not being listed as thornless (or almost) I am finding it easy to get along with. There are some thorns on it, but they are easy to work around, and don't seem to be where they'll cause much trouble.

It is perfectly possible to deadhead the entire bush without gloves, and without getting ripped to bits. You don't even really need secateurs, as the pedicels are easy to nip off with just your thumbnail and forefinger.

The other nice thing about large Teas is you don't have to grovel around in the dirt to work on them. Everything is at a handy height, at least until they get so big that you need a ladder.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 10 SEP 17 by Patricia Routley
It is easy to just nip the pedicels off, but you will make a Tea more compact if you deadhead back two eyes (or sets of leaves)
Reply #2 of 2 posted 10 SEP 17 by Give me caffeine
Well yes, cutting more off it would make it more compact. So far I haven't bothered.
Discussion id : 102-490
most recent 19 JUL 17 SHOW ALL
Initial post 11 JUL 17 by CybeRose
Gardener's Monthly and Horticulturist - Volume 6 - Page 90 (March 1864)
Saffrano, in the bud state, is one of the most beautiful, but the expanded flower is thin and poor; the buds are apricot, the flowers fawn color; the plant grows so freely, flowers so abundantly, and is withal so uncommon in color, that it forms a most attractive object in the garden.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 17 JUL 17 by Give me caffeine
Thin and poor? That doesn't seem to fit the ones I've seen. The hot weather blooms aren't impressive, but the autumn and winter ones (in a suitable climate) are really good. Beautifully scented too, albeit only of moderate strength.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 19 JUL 17 by CybeRose
I haven't growing it, myself. I'm informed that it does vary considerably with environmental conditions and stock (when grafted).
Discussion id : 93-578
most recent 17 JUL 17 SHOW ALL
Initial post 19 JUN 16 by Give me caffeine
The description page for this one says "Height of 4' to 8' (120 to 245 cm). Width of 3' (90 cm)".

Billy warned me that this rose will fill a 3 metre circle when it is well established (ie: over 10 years old) even if it is given a light trim two or three times a year throughout its life.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 19 JUN 16 by Patricia Routley
Yes. We have to increase that one. Even in my cooler climate my bushes are 2m x 2m (with light trims).
We'll put it at 2m-3m high x 2m-3m wide.
(Once upon a time, I was hoping for more input on the teas from a tea expert (or two), but nothing ever came of it.)
Reply #2 of 3 posted 19 JUN 16 by Give me caffeine
That's why I went and questioned a tea expert. ;) She's quite forthcoming if you can find her.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 17 JUL 17 by Give me caffeine
Update on my one: after just over a year in the ground, and starting from what was basically a tiny stick, it has apparently decided it is going to take over the world. The very top of it is about my eye height: 1.6 metres or so (about 5'3") and the diameter is a good 2 metres (about 6'7" ish).

I haven't pruned it yet, but the form is still pretty good and fairly dense. Covered in flowers at the moment too, which are of the usual quality for Safrano in winter.
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