'Souvenir de Madame E. Boullet' rose reviews and comments

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'Souvenir de Madame E. Boullet' rose Reviews & Comments

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Discussion id : 88-150 most recent 5 OCT 15 SHOW ALL

Initial post 27 SEP 15 by Eric Timewell

Reply #1 of 16 posted 28 SEP 15 by HMF supporting member

HMF Admin

Eric, is it possible someone from this nursery would be interested in updating their nursery's plant list ? There is a much more expedient method than updating a single rose a time.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 16 posted 2 OCT 15 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

I agree. Having to plough through 70 or so "available from"s is not my idea of fun. I'll add the roses - and then delete your comments so that others do not have to plough.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 16 posted 3 OCT 15 by Eric Timewell

I've just seen this. I've finished entering all the Kurinda roses now, anyway. There are two or three to come not yet known to HMF, but they will keep.	REPLY

Reply #4 of 16 posted 3 OCT 15 by HMF supporting member

HMF Admin

Which roses are we missing ?	REPLY

Reply #5 of 16 posted 3 OCT 15 by Eric Timewell

Alison Madden (named also by Miss Madden's Climber but a different rose) Pride of Venus Magic Fire Holly Hocker	REPLY

Reply #6 of 16 posted 3 OCT 15 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

“Alison Madden” added. ‘Pride of Venus’ added. Is this a Nieuwesteeg-bred rose? ‘Magic Fire’. We’ve got three of ‘em. But Nieuwesteeg’s 2008 catalogue says the one they stock is a 1999 rose. Do you know who bred this 1999 rose? 'Holly Hocker'. I have nothing at all on this rose.	REPLY

Reply #7 of 16 posted 3 OCT 15 by Eric Timewell

Patricia, you are very quick off the mark. I suspect some of them are just plain mistakes. I have written to John asking his opinion of the Clarkiness of Alison Madden. Pride of Venus could be anything. So could Holly Hocker—it's a rugosa it seems.	REPLY

Reply #8 of 16 posted 3 OCT 15 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

If you can follow up on 'Magic Fire' and 'Holly Hocker', we'll add them when we have more info.	REPLY

Reply #9 of 16 posted 3 OCT 15 by Damo

Hi there! 'Pride of Venus' is the same rose as 'Elfe' (same code: TANefle) bred by Hans Jurgen Evers & released by Tantau Roses in 2000.	REPLY

Reply #10 of 16 posted 3 OCT 15 by Eric Timewell

Thank you, Damo. There is also a Climbing Desert Glow, rarity among rarities, which I am chasing up.	REPLY

Reply #11 of 16 posted 3 OCT 15 by HMF supporting member

HMF Admin

Thank you, we have combined these.	REPLY

Reply #12 of 16 posted 4 OCT 15 by Eric Timewell

I've tracked down "Holly Hocker". It was found by John Nieuwesteeg about 2010. It is a rugosa like Roserai de l'Hay, with the same colouring and scent but many more petals. The bush grows to 2 metres. The rose is called Holly Hocker because the bush looks like a hollyhock. Can we please create a new entry for Holly Hocker so we can allocate it to Kurinda Rose Nursery?	REPLY

Reply #14 of 16 posted 4 OCT 15 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

'Holly Hocker' added. Heavens knows how we will find this thread again in the future if ever needed.	REPLY

Reply #15 of 16 posted 4 OCT 15 by Eric Timewell

Thanks, Patricia. I'm, going to check the details more thoroughly today.	REPLY

Reply #16 of 16 posted 5 OCT 15 by HMF supporting member

Margaret Furness

"Found" meaning spontaneous seedling, sport, or discovered in an old garden?	REPLY

Reply #13 of 16 posted 4 OCT 15 by Eric Timewell

Ambiguous references on the Kurinda list to Desert Glow Magic Fire Angel Face Michelangelo have all been ironed out.	REPLY