'R. boursaultii' rose reviews and comments

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'R. boursaultii' rose Reviews & Comments

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Discussion id : 159-760 most recent 1 JAN 24 SHOW ALL

Initial post 29 DEC 23 by HMF supporting member

scvirginia

Reply #1 of 2 posted 29 DEC 23 by HMF supporting member

jedmar

Yes, there were doubts: According to Thory in 1824, the double Boursault rose is a seedling of the single Rosa reclinata, which in turn was a cross of R. chinensis x R. alpina. This parentage added. Later parentage statements came 70 years later and seem to be a simplification.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 2 posted 1 JAN 24 by HMF supporting member

scvirginia

Thanks!	REPLY

Discussion id : 87-503 most recent 1 JUL 21 SHOW ALL

Initial post 25 AUG 15 by CybeRose

History of the Rose pp. 165-166 (1954)
Roy Shepherd
A rose deserving of special attention in the Pendulina classification is Rosa Lheritieranea Thory, the Boursault Roses, itself the forebear of a distinctive group within a group. The result of probably the first union of R. chinensis with a European rose, it was known for several years as R. Boursaultii, or popularly as the Boursault Rose. The exact date of origin is somewhat in doubt, but evidence points to the account that about 1810, Cugnot, a French nurseryman, produced a rose whose characters denoted that it was a hybrid of R. pendulina and R. chinensis. The original plant was sent to the garden of Henri Boursault. Here it was observed by Thory, who published the name R. Lheritierana, in Redouté’s Roses, but later in the same work referred to it as R. reclinata.

Reply #1 of 4 posted 26 AUG 15 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

Reply #2 of 4 posted 29 JUN 21 by HMF supporting member

scvirginia

I added this to the references, but had to guess at the formatting (i.e., which names were italicized), since I don't own Shepherd's book.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 4 posted 1 JUL 21 by CybeRose

Thanks. I had forgotten about this note. So, I checked again and find that Shepherd confused the issue just a bit. Cugnot's single-flowered rose appears to have been the original hybrid. The semi-double Boursault rose was a seedling from the other.	REPLY

Reply #4 of 4 posted 1 JUL 21 by HMF supporting member

scvirginia

Well, he did say 'probably', so maybe not so much confused as lacking the Internet resource of HMF... :>)	REPLY