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Discussion id : 63-682
most recent 1 AUG 17 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 19 APR 12 by Patricia Routley
Should 'Thomasville Lamarque' be merged with 'Lamarque' and treated as a synonym of 'Lamarque'
Or should it be retained as a foundling "Thomasville Lamarque" and have the breeder deleted.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 19 APR 12 by Nastarana
They do seem to be two separate roses. I had hoped to grow both, along with Brightside Cream, for comparison, but had to move to a much colder climate, where Noisettes won't survive the winters.

H. B. Ellwanger, the American author and rosarian, gave a list of what he was pleased to term too much alike roses. This, mind you, at the turn of the 20th century! Among the too much alikes, he listed "Lamarque and Jeanne d'Arc". That last would clearly not be the Noisette shrub which is at present known as Jeanne d'Arc. I have wondered if one of the two slightly different Lamarques might not be the original Jeanne d'Arc. Sheer speculation, of course. Also in the mix, so to speak, are some interesting, Lamarque-like foundlings, Brightside Cream, the Florez St. House Eater, and one other also found in Texas. I don't know if anyone has ever tried growing them all side by side. A huge wall would be needed.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 1 AUG 17 by John Hook
In my opinion this should be merged with 'Étendard de Jeanne d'Arc' . I have been growing the two for several years now and can detect no differences
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Discussion id : 82-868
most recent 29 JAN 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 JAN 15 by John Hook
After comparing this to 'Etendard de Jeanne d'Arc' (Origin L'Hay) for some time now I think 'Nasturana' may be correct, no difference between the two except the l'Hay clone is sickly
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Discussion id : 80-434
most recent 9 SEP 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 SEP 14 by John Hook
This rose is what I would expect 'Etendard de Jeanne d'Arc' to look like., cluster flowered somewhat climbing and a strong affinity to Gloire de Dijon. Unfortunately I have 'Etendard de Jeanne d'Arc' (ex L'Hay) from Loubert which seems probably correct this behaves like many of the Gloire de Dijon offspring, ie it's sickly with no vigor, unlike TL.
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Discussion id : 77-847
most recent 27 APR 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 27 APR 14 by John Hook
seems to differ from our Lamarque in having flatter flowers (in the Souv. de la malmaison type) and rounder leaves.
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