'Belle Portugaise' rose Reviews & Comments
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Does somebody know if she's Hardy zone 8b? I've got a hot, sunny garden near Leuven in Flanders Belgium.
Thx
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I think it would love it.
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Gets BIG, needs support and lives a very long time.
I've seen ancient specimens in central California.
It used to be very popular and is now virtually forgotten.
Spectacular, but only once a year.....
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Size isn't an issue. She has 15 meters in full hot south facing sun. Once flowering isn't a problem, I've got two Kiftsgate roses, Wedding day, Paul's Himalayan musk and apple blossom too
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Great to have that much space to play with.. Very nice!
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I've ordered half the inventory at Loubert roses lol. Due to climate change I'm trying Teas and China's
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#7 of 8 posted
22 JAN by
 jedmar
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We have been trying out Teas and Chinas in Switzerland Zone 7b since over 15 years. Survivors are Anna Jung, Archiduc Joseph, Bon Silène, Comtesse de Leusse, Dr. Grill, Empress of China, E. Veyrath Hermanos, Lijiang Rose, Marie van Houtte, McClinton Tea, Mlle de Sombreul, Mme Antoine Mari, Mme Driout, Monsieur Rosier, Mutabilis, Old Blush, Papillon, Professur Ganiviat, Safrano, Souvenir de François Gaulain, Unermüdliche; as well as many Noisettes.
Of course they are never as lush as in Italy or southern France.
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Thank you for the reply. Our Flemish garden in Belgium is 8b and our garden is sort of a Clos, surrounded by walls. It's very hot and dry, especially the past 15 years. Nearly all my normal roses struggle with the heat and go in standby mode. So I started with Teas and Noisettes now. I currently grow: Rêve d'or, Maréchal Niel, Mme Bérard, Gloire de Dijon, Safrano, Lorraine Lee, Mme Jules Gravereaux, Baronne Henriette Snoy, Elie Beauvillain, Devoniensis, Malmaison (bush and climber), La France, Catherine Mermet, Maman Cochet and white maman cochet, Filippa Pirette, Archiduc Joseph, Noëlla Nabonnand, Souvenir d'un ami etc..
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Our Belle of Portugal blooms in flushes through the year in Northern CA, San Francisco Bay Area, the Peninsula. My Grandpa planted it so it must be 70-90 years old. It’s been munched on by deer and goats and it just climbs higher and keeps going with out any care even through our driest 3 months of Mediterranean climate drought August-October. Half of its roots are probably growing under the cement pad it is planted next to offering some protection and moisture. It is on the West facing side of the house. It would like more sun because it reaches out to it. I’ve failed many times to grow it from cuttings and air layering. I will try inflicting a larger wound on the stem next try.
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16 JUN 18 by
BrianH
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I love roses, but this one has to be the most sublime things I have ever set eyes on. It is huge, tough, with the most delicate, perfect booms. I hope to be in a warm climate to grow this beauty someday. Susan Louise, its seedling [or, I believe, huge bush sport] is also an unusual, ungainly, perfect delight.
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When I was in high school, we lived in house that shared a Belle of Portugal with the house next door. It had been planted along a long gone fence and had grown to great proportions. It was never pruned (we would have had to erect scaffolding to do it) and sent canes rocketing skywards every summer. The flowers were a marvel. The color always reminded me of the inside of a conch shell, a magical blending of pale pinks and glowing yellows on the inside of the petals. The flowers were huge and always prized in a bud vase. I recall a wonderful fragrance, not strong but very intense. The bloom period was just too short, you wanted it to go on forever.
If I ever live in a house with enough land, I will plant one.
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