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Initial post 28 NOV 11 by Cà Berta
Description in the web site of Roseto Niso Fumagalli http://www.airosa.it/roseto/ricerca.asp?area=b1
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 4 JAN 12 by andrewandsally
FG Cazzaniga was born in 1903 and his death is recorded in an article in the AIR yearbook of 1971. A number of the varieties you list as his were bred after this date and, one must assume are the work of Carla Cazzaniga. Sandra Mondaini is one such.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 4 JAN 12 by RoseBlush
Andrewandsally............

If a rose is introduced after a breeder's death, it does not follow that s/he did not breed the rose. Most roses go through several years of testing before they are introduced to commerce. Some breeders may have several roses ready to introduce to commerce in one year and hold some back so that they do not have their own roses competing against each other in the market.

Just a thought.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 4 JAN 12 by Kim Rupert
Not just a testing period of a "few years", Ralph Moore was notorious for having seedlings he had created decades before, waiting until someone convinced him they were commercial or interesting enough to be introduced. A few grew in the nursery for almost thirty years before they were released.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 4 JAN 12 by Cà Berta
It can be assumed ..... however:
1) the information comes from the official site of Roseto Niso Fumagalli della Villa Reale di Monza and of the Associazione Italiana della Rosa that awards the prices of the International Rose Trials (of course they may have made a mistake).
2) in the presentation of the firm “Cazzaniga Daniele” (grandson of Febo Giuseppe) http://www.giardinierecazzaniga.com/ the word hybridization is used only once and refers to the work of Febo Giuseppe. The children of the breeder (Claudio and Carla) were involved in “coltivazione” and the grandchildren (Daniele and Clara) in “vendita (commerce)”. The awards won at the Concorso della Rosa di Monza are reported as obtained by the nursery (Vivai Cazzaniga).
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 4 JAN 12 by jedmar
Cazzaniga roses up to 1976 are recorded at Fineschi as being from F.G., so the roses listed after 1981 might indeed be from Carla or Carlo Cazzaniga (what relation?). It should be possible to find out.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 5 JAN 12 by Cà Berta
In the web site of Roseto Niso Fumagalli also the roses bred by the children of Febo Giuseppe Cazzaniga are reported. Carla Cazzaniga bred Fatima and Claudio Cazzaniga bred Brezza Rosa, Ramino and L.I.P. 06/20. Apparently, then, the authorship of Cazzanigas’ roses in Monza is not mixed up.
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